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Hi Norma,

In VSD (Visual Site Designer) the styles are in the header, then throughout the body, tags refer to the css.

There is no way to take control of the CSS in VSD. There is also no separate .css file generated.

To import styles or design your own and save as .css, you need to use HTML Editor.

VSD is really aimed at people who want design without code, so there is no emphasis on the user altering the code. There are options to add html code yourself and you can add meta descriptions & keywords etc. as well as implement flash and other things such as iframes. But at a basic level, it's a very handy program for the novice.

If you need power, control and true customisation, The HTML Editor is the one to go for.

Also, if responsive design interests you (the ability to transform your web site depending upon the device viewing it) then the only solution is HTML Editor as VSD does not offer any responsive tools at present. Responsive web design is the way forward as so many people now use tablets and phones to browse, buy and interact on-line. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design if you're not sure what I'm talking about.

I would say that if you are familiar with html and css and you can write code, then the best gift you could award yourself is the HTML Editor.

VSD is not for people who want to write code. That said, I have both applications and I sometimes cheat by using VSD to design a layout and then open all the html files in HTML Editor and transform it into what I "really" want :)

Dave
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Not entirely true.;)
David Smyth wrote:

There is no way to take control of the CSS in VSD. There is also no separate .css file generated.


http://progrower.coffeecup.com/customfo … xtoverride
http://progrower.coffeecup.com/opacity.html#backg
http://progrower.coffeecup.com/cursorandfavicon.html
There's plenty more that can be done.:)
I can't hear what I'm looking at.
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.

This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
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Thanks for the answers to my questions. I now have a better idea of how CC works. I wish there was a Linux version. I would try it.

Norma
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Norma wrote:
Thanks for the answers to my questions. I now have a better idea of how CC works. I wish there was a Linux version. I would try it.

Norma

send in a support request directly to CC (not forum)

I seem to recollect Scott at CC said there is a way around using linux (technical)

Though i for one can't see the point, with hosting abundantly available
Started using CC VSD in January 2009, I don't do HTML code, Sales from CC site exceeding expectations taken me out of semi-retirement
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My new VSD & SCCP site Oct 2011 www.deloreanjewellery.co.uk
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Hi Eric,

Indeed, but I was just trying to keep it basic since the question comes from a new user.

Dave

Eric Rohloff (Rolly) wrote:
Not entirely true.;)
David Smyth wrote:

There is no way to take control of the CSS in VSD. There is also no separate .css file generated.


http://progrower.coffeecup.com/customfo … xtoverride
http://progrower.coffeecup.com/opacity.html#backg
http://progrower.coffeecup.com/cursorandfavicon.html
There's plenty more that can be done.:)
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And me for the not so new.;)
I can't hear what I'm looking at.
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.

This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
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There are workarounds for almost everything :)

That's what makes being a CC user such fun :):)
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This site: http://nqpdesigns.com/ was made with VSD (by a friend), and I helped her inserting her own css in addition to what was generated by the programme. It's easy to use the 'html tool' to add this and that to the sites created with VSD.
Ha en riktig god dag!
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My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com


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Inger wrote:
This site: http://nqpdesigns.com/ was made with VSD (by a friend), and I helped her inserting her own css in addition to what was generated by the programme. It's easy to use the 'html tool' to add this and that to the sites created with VSD.

dam, i wish i had seen this answer before, i keep toying with buying CC css software but could not work out if it would have been SIMPLE enough for me to use it

Oh well, when it was at a daft price at the weekend i should have bought it, very little wasted if not.

I bought a few other toys i will probably never use, and direct ftp just for the fun of trying to work out what if anything i could do with it
Started using CC VSD in January 2009, I don't do HTML code, Sales from CC site exceeding expectations taken me out of semi-retirement
Hosted FREE on CC S DRIVE www.chauffeurdrivenluxurycars.co.uk
My new VSD & SCCP site Oct 2011 www.deloreanjewellery.co.uk
My friendly window cleaner www.mwcwindowcleaner.co.uk

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Viv, the CSS software, if you mean the Style sheet maker, is already outdated. If you are interested in learning css, then check out the HTML Editor's built in CSS creator. Anyway, you can test them both if you download a trial.

Oh, with DFTP you can move around and see what you've got onyour server and tidy up if some files have gone to weird places. You can also zip up and download the full site for backup.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway

My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com



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