This post is unclear to me. There was only one person who made the statement they weren't going to design for IE6. Tom and myself said what you just said. What does it mean to suck a shirttail? Your last sentence assumes we cannot keep customers, but nobody has brought that up as a concern. And advertising is just good standard business practice, which you should be interested in if indeed you work with corporations. Sorry, just didn't understand.

Just tell her she's the greatest.
http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/showhype/story_large/2009/03/30/tony_the_tiger_frosties.jpg

FE PIXIE IS THE GREATEST!

I believe I've got it. I am using Paint.Net (it's an open source image editor similar to Paint Shop Pro). I saved the image as an 8bit png and set the Dithering level to 8 and the Transparency threshold to 20, wha-lah!

As far as IE6 goes, well, I currently work for a company that is still working in the XP operating system and has informed everyone that until all of our apps can work flawlessly in Win 7, no upgrades are allowed. Of course, in the meantime they allow us to install Firefox, go figure.

I'm gonna work on getting that blasted right image to position it to the upper right corner of the header, for now though, I'll just drop it and keep the left image.


Thank you guys. I read every post and tried the suggestions. I really appreciate the help!

Greg

Tom who? I see a comment by "Tony the Tiger"...

In any case, "Tom" is neither correct nor incorrect. Tom expressed an opinion, just as I expressed an opinion. They are both equally valid. Right and wrong are for matters of fact.

If I were a 'developer', I would not be serving my client base properly if I didn't attempt to educate them on the risks involved in using older versions of Internet Explorer. (or current versions, for that matter...) It goes beyond whether or not a transparent background doesn't display correctly.

Since I'm not a 'developer', I don't have to worry about whether I would take the money for catering to the lowest common denominator in the form of an obsolete, insecure browser. There's a name for that, but I won't mention it in a polite, mixed forum.

I would try to serve my clients' best interests by encouraging them to transition to more secure versions, and I'd worry like hell about the other seriously-outdated and vulnerable software they had on their users systems.

Just my opinion...

Comments on a public forum are personal opinions to be taken with a grain of salt. Take from a post what you may and ignore the rest. If it works for you, that's Grrrrreat!

I do not think it is this simple. First, the forum should not be opinion, it should give advice based upon industry standards and fact based help. If, in those rare cases there is an opinion needed, such as in, design based questions, then a good opinion is not a biased spin, but analyzes the overall situation, and then gives a humble opinion, but not before presenting both sides of the issue.

For example, you could say: "Although most within the industry still find it necessary to code for IE6, I do not because of the security issues my clients face."

I think generally speaking this forum has a good reputation of giving great informative support for Coffee Cup users. Although there are areas of the forum where this is appropriate I don't think general debates on philosophical issues related to web development does the Coffee Cup user (many who may be new to development) any good, when they are asking a simple question about PNG transparency.

when you just throw things out there like the ie6 issue without any context and the user isn't informed, they may be inclined to just believe what you said, since you are a trusted CC adviser. They don't know any different. We need to be more responsible with our comments.

I just think we can be more professional than this. (But, just my opinion!)

I don't know about all that because I don't have a professional opinion to offer.

I'm just a CC software user helping other users on the forum, regardless of the title CoffeeCup has bestowed upon me (I guess they though my opinions warranted it).

I believe CoffeeCup users are smart enough to take and leave what they read in this forum, just as they do in life.

pngquant will let you create PNG8 images with alpha transparency if the software you're using only allows index transparency (things can only be completely transparent or opaque).
http://www.ethanandjamie.com/blog/81-pn … -fireworks

i was offering a different opinion to this one Eric

and i was referring to my customers not yours

Greg
if you nest your divs like this it can help to position the right hand image...