Nice Brian, wish we had a 'like' button in our forums

I join the opinion of Brian.
CC is an exellent and fair software company.
For programs such as RSD or RLMP you have look far.
The quality is top, service brilliant and the price almost too low.

I agree with Brian here too! Hey Scott... get us a like button for the forums! lol

I couldn't be happier with CC, all the time that I put in asking dumb questions and the great answer I receive from all the people at CC and those who give their time to the forum.
I think the only software I don't own is RED and I will be getting it once I get the site built and functioning.

I agree with a lot of what you say. I'm a huge fan of CoffeeCup's products which is why I own most of them. There is no comparison between CoffeeCup and Adobe. The former offers cost-effective, lightweight programs that do what the majority of people need. The latter offers expensive, bloated software that, thankfully has largely been superseded by smaller software developers (including CoffeeCup) who create more intuitive products.

The point I'm trying to make is, I don't see myself going back to RLMP. As good as it was when it was first released, RSD is leaps and bounds ahead of it now. If I want to create a wireframe, I would do it in RSD because it has everything I need to do that. There's no import issues either. I literally can save my wireframe as a separate RSD file and refer to it when necessary.

Now I know you're going to say that for beginners who aren't familiar with web design, RLMP is the best place to start, and I would agree. But do they really need a separate app? What happens when they become familiar with RLMP? They'll need to buy RSD. That's why I think having one app would be the best idea, then you could make the user pay more when they want to unlock the additional features that RSD provides, rather than having two separate apps which I think is unnecessary.

That's just my opinion which you have every entitlement to disagree with, but I think it would be a good idea.

For now, and until RSD is officially released. After its release, one will be able to grab a free trial just like with RLMP, but until then, the free RLMP trial is the closest thing to it. Some might even decide they like using RLMP and don't see any need for RSD. Just depends on how you like to build websites.

Not everyone is just beginning or looking for a WYSIWYG, and so would have no interest in an all-in-one type program. I don't see any need to turn RLMP/RSD into one big Dreamweaver type mish-mash to try and please everybody. Personally, I'd prefer fewer features in RLMP – more like its framework beginnings and less like a full sitebuilder, but users have demanded this and that feature until now it's closer to RSD. So I can see where one would think – why not just combine them?

But think outside of the CC box. Using whatever html editor you want, RLMP provides a quick way to nail down your responsive structure (with their framework, or Bootstrap and others, like Foundation coming soon). You can even provide clients with a functioning mock-up right away while you continue working out the actual site details in your editor.
Price-wise, it's very reasonable considering other wireframing tools that tend to run well over $200, if you want the working html/css behind your mock-up.
–Good for developers that don't need/want a WYSIWYG sitebuilder.

Then you have RSD–
RSD isn't aimed at those that just want a responsive framework to build their site on or need a wireframing tool for collaboration/clients. Sure, you can use it for that, but the typical RSD user will be someone who isn't dealing with clients or collaborating with other developers/designers – they're building for themselves and don't want to have to be proficient in HTML/CSS/JS to easily get their own site up and running.

It's good to have options

Oh right. You'll be bringing out a new app for every new feature at this rate!

Exactly -- for you. You've chosen to use only one program: RSD. And that's cool.


For your situation, your opinion fits. What about other situations? Here is why I like having two programs.

1. I do a lot of php coding, and RLMP helps greatly when it comes to working with my custom CMS. Two projects immediately come to mind in which RLMP is the better development choice because of all the custom coding that goes on with the web sites (lots of php code).

2. My programming process is different than yours. I do all my initial wireframes in RLMP specifically because it allows me to focus solely on structure. I then open it in RSD, save it as an RSD file and finish the other parts of the development (aside from the php coding).

And if you look at how CC staff talks about the two programs, they aren't trying to strongarm anyone into buying both. People can buy either or both programs depending on what they want and need.

I respect your opinion and understand why it is a good idea for your situation and style. I am sure there are other people who have that same situation and only need RSD. In my opinion, I think it is a better idea to have the option to work with either or both programs because it fits more development situations -- like mine. So why not have two options that fits more situations?