Wish list for the FUTURE pro version...

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lol, it's not that I don't know "how" to do it, it's that I have sooo much on my plate at the moment, I don't want to take the time to do it :P I most likely will end up doing it anyways at some point, and using CCHE not VSD as I like having more control in the end lol. Either way, more pages will be nice in Pro version :)
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I think we will all have to have realistic expectations of the Pro version. Coffeecup is only a relatively small business and its developers have to work on a wide variety of programs. Cart Creator is just one of many excellent programs they have for sale. As someone that has extensive experience of coding programs, I know just how long it can take to make even the simplest of additions, to aid the functionality of a program.

The pro version needs to be a quantum leap from the basic version, but it also needs to keep a reference on its placement in the ecommerce marketplace. At the moment Coffeecup products are sold on their ease of use and the speed at which they can be deployed. If the pro version became overburdened with features and difficult to use, it would lose that unique placement and just become another difficult to use product, lost in a sea of ecommerce solutions. Likewise if all those extra features ramped up the retail price too much, people would seek out other alternatives.

I currently use powerful ecommerce software on my two main sites, whose existing feature set is way in advance of what anyone has requested of the pro version of Cart Creator. With a plethora of add ons, I don't think that there is anything it isn't capable of. With that level of complexity however comes a price. A mysql database that has to be implemented, maintained, upgraded, backed up and periodically cleaned of the crud that builds up on it. An admin system that has hundreds of user definable functions, but a learning curve that takes months. A complexity of use that can even overwhelm the user of the site. Check out with account, create new account, check out without account, check out with PayPal. (It took hours of hand coding to remove all that garbage).

The future pro version of cart creator will have to perform quite some balancing act. It needs to remain relatively simple to use, yet have an advanced feature set that will appeal to a broad market span. I personally won't be in the market to purchase till its loses the primitive shipping options, others will perhaps not buy until it allows digital downloads, or has inventory control etc.

Scott and the team are going to have to make some difficult decisions over the next few weeks. :/
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I wouldn't call the shipping options "primitive".
Basic perhaps, but they probably work just fine for many individuals. They're working on other options. Alot of the request being posted in the forums are for functionality that would be present in database driven solutions (Zen Cart, OSC etc.). In many cases even those open source solutions rely on contributor mods to get the functionality people are looking for.
I'm more concerned that CC keeps the simplicity in the forefront. If users need functionality that's only available in a database driven solution than maybe that's a better option for them.
Not being mean spirited by the way, just stating what I believe. :)


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Jefff wrote:
I wouldn't call the shipping options "primitive".
Basic perhaps, but they probably work just fine for many individuals.

Remember that we are talking about the future pro version here and that product is being aimed at a totally different market from the basic version. The current shipping options are primitive in the fact that they won't calculate the actual shipping costs with any reasonable level of accuracy. Those figures can be significantly out for multi purchases, so we aren't just talking about a few cents here. Unless a business either wants to lose money on shipping costs, or end up radically overcharging their customers for shipping (if those customers don't abandon the cart first), the current shipping options would remain totally unviable as a 'pro' solution and would inevitably cost Coffeecup a significant amount of lost sales.

The folks at Coffeecup have quite rightly identified that there needs to be two versions of Cart Creator. The basic version provides a good product for those that want a very easy solution and have much simpler needs. The pro version is more geared to those want to use enhanced feature sets and need a higher level of functionality.
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In addition to the features mentioned in this thread, I would also like to see an HTML editor integrated into the Pro version.
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BookPublisher wrote:
In addition to the features mentioned in this thread, I would also like to see an HTML editor integrated into the Pro version.

In what way?
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Similar to FCKeditor with a WYSIWYG interface as well as a Source button or tab that allows for direct entry of HTML code. I don't know how difficult this would be to implement in SCC but I would prefer entering HTML code directly rather than entering [[[<code>]]].
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I use the excellent Html Editor that is sold as a separate product by Coffeecup. I have used that for years, in preference to Dreamweaver. I also use it in my other cart software to create listings, even though that has a html area editor built in (soon to be replaced by FKeditor).

I know it's not the 'in cart' solution you are looking for, but if you aren't currently using it, download the trial and put it through its paces.
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My vote is for Doug Cunningham to put on a shirt. I'll take that over inventory control any day.
Let's not get all hurt.
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David Sellers wrote:
My vote is for Doug Cunningham to put on a shirt. I'll take that over inventory control any day.


Yes, please!

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