So with RSD does this make RLM obsolete?
Is there a reason I would use RLM and export in to RSD other than the sites I have made already?

I would like to know too
I think Scott wrote on one of the his posts that RLM is a good starting point - and this makes sense (I'm an educator by profession and I believe in "staged learning", that's why I haven't gotten deep into RLM until I know more about HTML & CSS (and Javascript as well).

I have played with RLM quite a bit and then had to take a break because of life happening, but now I'm back and even though I have some knowledge of RLM I have some fine tuning to do on my learning and didn't want to spend time on RLM if I could be learning RSD.
I was thinking if you didn't have RSD RLM would be good to learn as RSD is built around RLM and you would have your toes wet for when you switched to RSD.

I think the post referred to is at http://www.coffeecup.com/forums/respons … post247792

Frank

This is how burnt out I am, he had the same answer on one of my post.
http://www.coffeecup.com/forums/respons … post249952

It all depends on your needs Rick. I think the link Frank referenced explains it all.

This is what I posted in another thread and I think it's worth repeating:

What got me thinking is how unnecessary it is to have two programs. You said it: everything you can do in RLMP you can do in RSD, albeit with the added extras. Wouldn't it just be better to have some sort of window in the RSD preferences that allows you to choose the different styling options you can choose from in the right panel? That way you could easily take away the unnecessary things and just have the options RLMP has. Eg. if you didn't want the rounded corners, that section would be completely hidden if you uncheck the box for it. You could even have preset workflow layouts to suit the user's needs. In Dreamweaver they have something similar to this which adjusts the layout of the workspace to suit your needs.

I'm a big fan of minimilisation (keeping things simple and only having what's necessary). I think for novices out there, they will be confused by the fact there are two products and not really know what the difference is. I know that inevitably CoffeeCup will make more money by having these two products, but it's unfair to the customer.

We could do that, but then we would need to double the price of RSD....

While what you are suggesting is "technically doable" the process makes for a more complicated application. You have to remember that not everyone has the same needs. Most use RLM to make a quick mockup for either themselves or for their clients . Having to weed though all the settings that are in RSD but don't apply to layouts, makes the process more difficult and confusing because so many of those settings simply are not needed in a layout. RLM lets you build something quick and fast so you can get the over all concept of your design complete. Once you (or your client ) is happy with it, you polish that design in RSD.

If you are someone that does not need layouts, then RSD is what you only need. Just remember that it's a large world out there and not everyone has the same needs. That is specially why we have (and will continue to have ) two different products. It just makes sense.

However there is "nothing unfair " happening though. You don't have to own RLM if you want RSD and you don't have to own RSD if you want to use RLM. They are two distinct different programs that offer different functionality. Just choose the one that best fits your needs. Your statement "I'm a big fan of minimilisation" actually shows why having RLM separate from RSD is a good thing. It keeps things simple.

Also, there will be trial versions of both (when RSD is officially released) so people will have the ability to test both applications and make the choice on which one is best for them.

Ray, I'm an amateur not a professional web site builder - I know that some like to jump in feet first, but I'm quite happy to play around with RLM and build my minimal knowledge up in stages (which is how I teach my students in the classroom or behind the wheel).
CC's pricing system is very reasonable and their customer support is excellent, if I purchased RSD and eventually decided to not make use of it, I wouldn't regret it.

Actually, both your statements about CC being unfair is incorrect.

You referenced Dreamweaver which is an Adobe product. If anyone is out to make a killing, it's Adobe who is charging a subscription rate. $120/year is what you pay for Dreamweaver. And if you want any other product with it, it's going to continue to cost more per year. I wanted Fireworks which is a fantastic image editor that works in both raster and vector at the same time. I can't get that from Adobe unless I get their complete package at $600/year because they won't sell that one separately.

Compare that with CC.
--- You can purchase either RLM ($149 or currently $129 on sale) and it's yours. No subscription. I'm sure that RSD, when released, will not be sold on a subscription model. Adobe costs much more.
--- Some might say that Adobe's subscription gives them all the updates to the software. CC provides minor upgrades to their software for free and charges for major upgrades. If you get CC's newsletter, you will get some major discounts. In the end, the CC most likely will have a much lower cost of ownership.
--- If CC were trying to be unfair, they would be trying to tell people they need both programs. Instead, CC has been very up-front about the similarities and differences in the two programs, how they work together as well as that not every person needs both programs.

Sure, CC is in business to make money. Every business is. However, CC is not unfair about it. They are clear and up-front about their software and they are extremely reasonably-priced unlike some other companies.