Uploading multiple websites to one...

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Is it possible to upload several different websites to the same domain?

I have split all the pages of my webpage into different website files (the main page is one file, the contact page is another file, the about us page a third, and so on). I did this because it took so long to upload the entire website when I was only making changes to several of the pages. My thought was that I would be able to simply upload individual pages when I made changes.

But I can't figure out how to upload all the pages onto the same domain. When I upload the main page, it appears fine, but then if i upload the contact us page, it overwrites the homepage.

I've been searching through threads and have seen that this probably because of the conflicting frontpages..so is there any way to have a website without a front page?

Thanks!
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I don't believe you can do what you're wanting to do here Howard, at least not within the VSD program. You would need to do your site manually with a code editor like HTML Editor to do this in a much more productive fashion. There is one way you "could" do this, but you would always have to remember to do it:

1. Save the sites same as you have been to separate directories of your computer which I'm sure you are already doing.

2. Make sure to save them in the html so you can upload them manually using DirectFTP or your favorite FTP program.

3. Change the names of the pages that you're going to upload. Keep in mind that every time you create a site with VSD it is creating a unique full site so it's automatically creating an index.html page for every one of the sites you're doing. If some of them are supposed to be other pages such as a contact.html or whatever, then rename the index.html pages of the ones you need changes to whatever page they should be.

This may not work 100% since I don't know how VSD treats links and such, but give it a try and see I guess. Other than that, I see no way for VSD to do this for you because it needs an index.html page for each site it's creating and it will always overwrite unless you do the uploading manually and double check the links for continuity of each page.
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Unless I am misunderstanding the nature of the question, why can't he setup subdomains and upload portions to each subdomain?
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Howard, you can create a sub-domain as referenced above but you will have to reference your sub-domain by the name of the subdirectory. For example: create a sub-directory called dev and load an index.html file on it. To get to that index, your URL would be 'www.dev.xxxxxxx.com/index.html' where xxxxxx.com is your primary domain name.

You can also set up a multiple web site hosting account where the DNS entry would point directly to a sub-directory under your primary account.


I use both of the above but check with your hosting provider and see if these features are allowed

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Yeah, just sign-up for another domain and create a folder in your root for that domain and run it as an add-on domain. Your host should allow this, check the control panel.
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I've been doing this for several years now. Just create a separate folder in your root directory for each website. Within your hosting account you should have a domain manager module and you'll just set up domain forwarding for all your individual domain names to their appropriate folder within the host domain. Contrary to what I was told once before, using this method DOES NOT restrict your ability to get your domains properly indexed, ranked and regularly crawled by all of the major search engines.

Remember, if you've got any significant activity on the different pages under a single domain you may run up against a bandwidth limit that could result in some additional charges to your account for bandwidth above your limit. Check with your host and see if they have an upgraded "unlimited" account available for you. This will generally allow you the availability of a far larger number of MySQL databases and a generous amount of e-mail accounts.

Depending on what you'll be doing with these websites I'd also suggest that you make sure you're using a LINUX based hosting account because it affords you a far larger array of tools to use within your individual websites. You can host any number of FORUMS, Blogs, calendars, etc., within that one host domain with no problems. You'll generally be able to use the hosts open license software for FREE within your host domain. I'm guessing you'll spend ~$6-$15 per month for the ability to run a large number of websites within your host domain depending on whether you choose to opt for a bandwidth throttle or "unlimited" bandwidth. I think I spend a monthly average of $15.00/mo for 15 websites, an SSL certificate and private registration. It's not gonna break the bank!

At the risk of getting flamed I'll point out that there probably are NOT any true "Unlimited Bandwidth" options out there but you'd have to be running an awfully large number of high frequency websites (400+ websites for my hosting company) for the hosting entity to ever say anything to you. If any of your websites becomes a hugely successful and commercially viable entity on it's own you'd simply opt to host it on it's own separate domain hosting account.

The method described above gets you a cost effective and simplified hosting solution for development of a significant number of specialty websites without sacrificing search engine visibility. It also allows you to set up between your own websites an extensive network of back links between sites to enhance your page ranking score within the major search engines.
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I don't think what he's asking for is subdomains, I think what he's asking for is a way to create each of the website sections of his 1 website using VSD and uploading it to the server so he can make the upload time shorter by making his pages in small sections rather than all the pages inside one website project in VSD. Granted, the subdomain would be the wise way to do this, but I don't think that's what he was asking to do. Correct me if I'm wrong here though lol. I see his point, but I think it would be messy to do what he wants to do myself. Subdomains would be the better solution for creatting multiple websites if that's what he's after, but won't help if he's trying to create one website in multiple sections of little mini sites in VSD.
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It also allows you to set up between your own websites an extensive network of back links between sites to enhance your page ranking score within the major search engines.

Actually, backlinks from the same IP address is not going to do much for your SEO. The search engines catch cheats and adapt accordingly.
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I know i am not the best person in here to give advice, but from a total novice (hence i use vsd and not html editor)

I think i am already doing exactly what Howard is asking for.

Others will hopefully correct me if i am rong ( they have far more experience than me )

But i am doing a website for the fun of it for a friends daughters photography website, and got to 22 pages and hundreds of large pictures , it was taking 45 minutes to load up

now i have used the inbuilt V S D ftp, and the main url is sarahphotographer which has the main site on and her personal portfolio is called pictureportfolio within the main site !

I then added /friends to the ftp when uploading next website (public_html/friends) to create the next separate website. (it has her demo portfolios in)

The next website is / portfolio (public_html/portfolio) it has her business cards, leaflets, fliers etc.

I am waiting for her first set of clients pictures next week after her first professional photoshoot, these will be uploaded in a website /fashion (and a number)

so it will be /fashion9 (followed by) fashion10 (public_html/fashion9)

And another website might be /portrait9 (public_html/portrait9)

So Sarah can upload each portfolio site without touching any other website at all

And i have noticed as Jo Ann pointed out it is actually sarahphotographer/fashion9.html

website is at http://sarahphotographer.co.uk the links to each site are in her portfolio page , all of them at present are friends !

The phony ones at the bottom with clients names go to /portfolio

Not sure if this is what howard might want to do to avoid using a separate ftp program but it works for me
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Thanks everyone. This is very helpful and I've been pretty busy and haven't gotten a chance to experiment yet, but what Jewelcraft has done is what I was going for. I was having the same problem, with the website taking almost an hour to upload every time.

I was trying to avoid creating subdomains, but I realize that is probably the most viable and simple option. I don't want to have to create a subdomain for every single page of the website, so I think if i end up needing the subdomains, I could start with just one. There is one section of the website which is the "research library". This contains all the links to various reports (in PDF form), and I think that this is what is really slowing down the upload. Does that sound right? So I will play around with spliting that portion of the website into the subdomain at first, if Jewelcraft's plan doesn't work for some reason.

Thanks again for all the help.

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