I have been using coffeecup for years. Out of necessity, I have began coding alot more by hand. My problem begins when I create the page in VSD and then edit some of the HTML using the HTML editor. While in the HTML editor, everything looks and operates fine. I later go into VSD and the changes do not work. One example is I had a bunch of buttons that were on page. My page began to get bloated with old graphics, so renamed the jpegs to something meaninful, deleted the old IMG_names, adjusted the VNU to use the new names. I had a home_button.jpg and a mo_home_button.jpg. Edited the HTML, all worked great. Later, using the VSD, it recreated mo_ home to look like the original object. It actually rewrites the image. Does anyone know of a solution for this? I would hate to have to abandon the VSD, because it makes things so much easier.
Thanks
Brian
updating page(s) using VSD and HTML...
Brian Grable
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tassietiger
Registered User
1,392 posts
Hi Brian,
I'm not quite clear on what you are doing.
Are you using the program called Visual Site Designer and then editing it using the HTML Editor which is a separate program and then either switching to the Visual Editor within HTML Editor or going back to the separate Visual Site Designer program?
Or are you using the Visual Editor in the HTML Editor and then switching to the HTML Editor and then back to the Visual Editor within that program?
Any of those options will completely muck up your code.
You could start off with the Visual Site Designer and then edit in the HTML Editor but then you can't switch back to either the Visual Site Designer or the Visual Editor within HTML Editor after that.
I'm not quite clear on what you are doing.
Are you using the program called Visual Site Designer and then editing it using the HTML Editor which is a separate program and then either switching to the Visual Editor within HTML Editor or going back to the separate Visual Site Designer program?
Or are you using the Visual Editor in the HTML Editor and then switching to the HTML Editor and then back to the Visual Editor within that program?
Any of those options will completely muck up your code.
You could start off with the Visual Site Designer and then edit in the HTML Editor but then you can't switch back to either the Visual Site Designer or the Visual Editor within HTML Editor after that.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said...but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not exactly what I meant.
Brian Grable
Registered User
4 posts
Sorry for the confusion. <sarcasm> you mean my question wasnt clear </sarcasm> 
So, I started the site using visual site designer. As a programmer by trade, I wanted to do a little housekeeping(deleting, renaming) of variables/button names. I edited the appropriate .jpg names and then adjusted the html to point to the new names. When using the Coffeecup html editor preview pane, everything was great. I later went into the Visual site designer to move some stuff around and thats when the craziness occurs. I was pretty sure this was a by-product/conflict of using the VSD and HTML editor, just wanted to make sure.
Thanks for the help
Brian
So, I started the site using visual site designer. As a programmer by trade, I wanted to do a little housekeeping(deleting, renaming) of variables/button names. I edited the appropriate .jpg names and then adjusted the html to point to the new names. When using the Coffeecup html editor preview pane, everything was great. I later went into the Visual site designer to move some stuff around and thats when the craziness occurs. I was pretty sure this was a by-product/conflict of using the VSD and HTML editor, just wanted to make sure.
Thanks for the help
Brian
The Philosopher
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For sure that is the conflict. Its mucky ucky when you do that.
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tassietiger
Registered User
1,392 posts
Yes it would be.
Once you change anything made in VSD with the HTML Editor you can't put it back into VSD.
Similarly you can't switch between the HTML code Editor and Visual Editor in The HTML Editor as they use two different coding styles and it causes problems as you have discovered.
Once you change anything made in VSD with the HTML Editor you can't put it back into VSD.
Similarly you can't switch between the HTML code Editor and Visual Editor in The HTML Editor as they use two different coding styles and it causes problems as you have discovered.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said...but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not exactly what I meant.
Bruzer
Registered User
3,940 posts
There are two different applications you can use to create your site: HTML Editor and Visual Site Designer.
The main difference between HTML Editor and Visual Site Designer is access to the raw HTML. Visual Site Designer will generate all the necessary HTML for you and allow you to focus on the design of your page. You can insert text, images, links, etc. and drag them anywhere on the page. You can even create shapes such as rectangles and circles, or add effects like glow, bevel, and shadow. Because everything is stored in the VNU file for Visual Site Designer, it cannot open preexisting HTML files to edit.
The HTML Editor, on the other hand, can open any HTML file and edit it with either the Code Editor or Visual Editor. The Visual Editor will also allow you to insert text, images, links, etc., but you cannot create shapes or effects within the program. Those would need to be done outside the software and inserted as images. Because the HTML Editor edits one file at a time, as opposed to the entire site, you have more control over things like filenames, directory structure, etc., and how these elements are uploaded to the server.
The main difference between HTML Editor and Visual Site Designer is access to the raw HTML. Visual Site Designer will generate all the necessary HTML for you and allow you to focus on the design of your page. You can insert text, images, links, etc. and drag them anywhere on the page. You can even create shapes such as rectangles and circles, or add effects like glow, bevel, and shadow. Because everything is stored in the VNU file for Visual Site Designer, it cannot open preexisting HTML files to edit.
The HTML Editor, on the other hand, can open any HTML file and edit it with either the Code Editor or Visual Editor. The Visual Editor will also allow you to insert text, images, links, etc., but you cannot create shapes or effects within the program. Those would need to be done outside the software and inserted as images. Because the HTML Editor edits one file at a time, as opposed to the entire site, you have more control over things like filenames, directory structure, etc., and how these elements are uploaded to the server.
Thanks Scott
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