Table Creator for VSD? - Post ID 194999

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VSD is perfect creating websites on a easy way. The only tool I am missing for the moment is a table creator. If I want to add a table, I have to create a table with my html editor. After that I have to copy the code to VSD. Is there any other way to create tables within VSD?
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That would be the only way at this time Sebastian, you've already got it under control :)
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Thing is, tables are a way to keep things aligned, spaced and separated and necessary when you code a site yourself. VSD does things differently. Everything is positioned as separate elements and can be aligned with the tools it has. That is why there is no table tool needed. you can simulate a table structure with the tools VSD has. Even borders, images within those created simulated table cells.

I would like to know of a situation why you need a table structure in VSD. I could be wrong and would love to be shown a valid reason.
The Guy from OZ


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Hi Prism,
I second the need for some kind of table creator in VSD.
I have a simple use namely a menu pricelist.
foodname left alined, price right alligned. Now I have to make 2 text boxes.
Getting foodname and price in one textbox on the same line with spaces in between is never OK.

Maybe I have missed a tip?

Thanks
Marc
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If you Google Table maker there's plenty out there free that work awesome. Yes it would be nice to have a feature like that in VSD but I would rather have CC focus on other features that are more in demand and trickery to implement in a VSD site.:)
@ Prism. If you want to be able to copy values from your website and be able to paste them in a proper sequence then the table solves this issue.:)
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the HTML Editor has a table maker in it, not sure if the free version does or not, but for the small cost of the HTML Editor you have more than just a table maker there then :)
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Here is a method, may seem strange but uses a browser as a program interpreter which in fact they are.

Anyway here it is Download the Word Processor Jarte (Free) and create your table with content. Save as a RTF file and export it also as a html file. Now if you copy the contents of the html file in a html box in VSD you will have a nice table in your page. Plus the RTF file you saved you can edit with new content save and repeat the process to update the page. Word can do it but to much bloat.

By positioning the html box you can position the table anywhere on your page. I will let you discover what else you can achieve with this trick. I place my content in a php variable, echoed in position, works a bit like an Iframe but with the content included

This trick can be used to add formatted text into any page without having to code the formatting . This was part of the system my CMS system works by. I have inserted 8 complete html pages inside a html page and the browsers do not complain nor should they. They can handle much more.

A browser reads a page top down like a program interpreter and when it comes to a tag it will continue that script until it comes upon a closing tag, returning to where it was till the next tag comes along be it html, JavaScript or Php. So what I do is quite cosha.
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Hmm! I thought I would get a comment on that. I guess I have shocked the pure coders. That is what I would do unless I was repopulating a page from a database then I would let a script write the table code as the page loads. I would do this with any editor. I have done worse as Jo can attest to :o
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Prism wrote:
Thing is, tables are a way to keep things aligned, spaced and separated and necessary when you code a site yourself. VSD does things differently. Everything is positioned as separate elements and can be aligned with the tools it has. That is why there is no table tool needed. you can simulate a table structure with the tools VSD has. Even borders, images within those created simulated table cells.

I would like to know of a situation why you need a table structure in VSD. I could be wrong and would love to be shown a valid reason.


Just thought I'd clarify that this is incorrect in today's coding systems. CSS is used to do almost all alignment now when coding a site yourself. Unless you are extremely behind the times, you don't use tables for aligning things anymore as CSS does the job a whole lot better and more efficiently than tables do which also takes a huge chunk out of the HTML page which is a good thing too as a lot of the styling for tables used to be done in the HTML inline and even that's not done that way anymore.

Anyways, I hadn't read this post apparently so I'm commenting on it now. Yes tables are a fun tool for adding little tables of data which is really all they are for, but for structuring a site you use CSS now not tables.

Hope that helps someone :)
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Just knocked this up, table is not as neat as coding but totally adjustable as it starts as a RTF file with all the ability to add any attribute a word processor can to text, images links etc. People look at a page not what drives it.
http://inkmon.coffeecup.com/storage/Page3.html

A table in a VSD page no coding, done in a few seconds. Just don't look at the source ain't pretty but works and loads fast. Edit the RTF convert and you are right to go.
I can create an area on a page which would be a nightmare to code in css done in a minute or two, no describing the class or positioning the object. It is just a trick not the norm, This is mainly for VSD. I agree with Jo that for pages coded with an editor especially responsive ones css is the only way.
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