Do i need dreamweaver? - Post ID 102670

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Hi Brian,

What the other helpers here have not told you, is that you cannot import a website or a big chunk of textand images, into VSD. You have to start with blank pages, but you can copy and paste text and pictures and arrange them the way you want, but not a whole e-book all at once.

Having said that, you may perhaps be able to do that by using the 'html tool' and paste the contents you want, but then using the html tags <pre> and </pre> before and after the pasted contents. Mind you, I have not tried this myself, so I can't guarantee anything...
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Brian Reed wrote:
Lets hope i dont have to spend $300!


If you do decide to go that route, go with Expression Web instead. It cost less, has more features, and Adobe refuses to fix the bugs it's been introducing into DW. EW even includes Expression Design, which is similar to Adobe Fireworks.
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Thanks Cary but which one? Went onto Amazon and they seem to list three different types?

Thanks Jo Ann. Somone is building the website. I have edited the book (252 pages) and have been asked to load it. I now believe that should be in a PDF . Sorry to be so dumb but I am very new to this

Understand I can use word Mike

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First of all, I highly recommend Coffee Cups products. They are very affordable and also very easy to use. But if you really have tried them and don't like them, if you download the full Mozilla suite, it comes with a decent program called Composer. It's a graphical Web page editor and it's FREE. Highly recommended.

http://www.mozilla.org

If you don't mind spending money, Dreamweaver is the premier tool for graphically creating Web pages. WAY more feature than Visual Site Designer or HTML Editor, but also a lot more complicated to learn. I would only use it if you plan on doing professional (not semi-professional) web design:

http://www.macromedia.com
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Sorry it took so long to answer guys, I just got home last night and got computer setup and did a few posts and went to bed lol. Am all setup now though :)

I see Brian, and yes that's what I would suggest also with something of that size. If it were not such a huge setup I could see you using the HTML Editor to input and create the pages of it though. Although the editors (including DW and the rest) won't allow you to just copy an entire thing like an ebook, you can copy and paste specific text to be placed within the tags which isn't too hard to do. Then just place a graphic if you have any in the ebook. It's not as hard as it sounds, but takes a bit of time. PDF sounds like the way to go for this project though, and you can make it so it will open automatically, or download depending on the person's browser preferences of course.

I would not purchase DW for this minimal task (minimal not as in difficulty, but as in only 1 thing you're trying to do rather than a full site)

To be honest, at the price of DW, I would take a little time and just learn a little here and there about HTML as you can and save yourself the money. Do keep in mind that CC products have no upgrade fees ever, and you can bet that DW and the rest all have steep upgrade fees yearly. It would maybe take a little time, but it's really not that hard to learn, and you truly do not have to remember every little detail because anytime you need to know something you can just google it and there's a lot of places to find the code you need, or you can ask in the forums here and most of the time someone knows how to do what you're trying to do. Although web building isn't a major science, it does take a bit of time to get the basics, but once you have that you can build on that as you go.

If you want to do that, just hollar and we can point you to some really good tutorials and help sites to see how it all works :)

Hence I recommend the HTML builder for it's versatility and truly you're not missing much from DW other than Integration of it with their products, which HTML Editor does with CC Products to a degree also. I used DW MX version for many years, and there's only a couple features that I miss from it, and none are enough to make me go back and pay the price to upgrade anymore.

And yes, what Inger says is most definitely true, with Visual Site Designer you cannot just import things into it or copy and paste chunks of data such as you were trying to do, you do need to start a site from scratch and build on with it. But in the end it would most likely be the easier way to go.

P.S. One thing no one touched on which I guess we all missed lol, was what DW does vs. HTML Editor. Basically they are the same thing, text editors for HTML Code. The major difference between DW and CCHE for me (maybe other things for others) is that you can edit in code or visual at the same time having both open and they are text and graphic sensitive (we're hoping someday that CC will hear our prayers on this). This means you can click on one area in the code and it will highlight the visual area that coincides with that code so you can edit it in either code or visual areas. This is the main feature I miss from DW.

CCHE has a visual editor but to be honest it's not all that great, and it's not click sensative, you cannot really swap between them and use both as one changes the code from the other so you're bound to one way or the other. CCHE does have a visual viewer though which helps a lot. Although you cannot "edit" it in the visual area, you are able to see what changes you're making while using the code editor so it's still pretty nice.

In the end though, both programs are basically the same thing, just one has more features than the other, and should for the money they want you to pay for DW. I guess I just don't think those features are worth the cost and I see nothing that CCHE cannot do in the end that DW can for building sites.
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Brian,
Are you selling the ebook or just letting people download it for free.???

For Free: just upload the pdf file to your website and on any page just put a link to it. (http://www.mywebsite/file.pdf)
Whenever someone clicks on that link, the PDF file will either open in their browser or start a download, depending on how the users computer is set up.

If you are selling it, it is much more complicated. But you said someone else was doing your site for you. If so just email them the PDF file.

Mike....
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I have found Expression Web to be very good. It is also a professional app that will carry you into the future and their forums are very good. It is WYSIWYG and html can be viewed and edited easity. It makes use of .css, master pages, and .dwt's, which are very useful in sites that have large numbers of "themed" designed pages. I particularly like the code checker for W3C compatibility. I use many Coffee Cup products as do those in the Expression Web forums. You will find many in those forums who have moved from Dreameaver and embraced Expression Web. The general thinking is...if you are looking for value....it is a far better value than DW.

When you copy and paste from word, webpage html, etc. It is wise to paste into notepad and remove all formatting, then paste it into your page and reformat from within your app.

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