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We could simple just block every user that has not purchased the program associated to the forum. But giving advice is giving advice. The way I look at the forums are by clicking the "Show New Posts" link on the right hand side. I do not look at what forum they are in, or even who posted them. I read the posts and if I believe I can give an answer, then I do. The answer I gave about the _blank tag was correct, because there are different ways to do it... But I do not believe it was "Mind Blowing." I believe this post is a little small minded "NO criticism of course". Due to the fact that you are saying do not introduce code to VSD users. They are coding (in a different) way every time they use VSD. And if they start to learn the code, they may be able to fix some of these problems on their own. Because my ultimate goal here to help people learn.

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For what it's worth, I tend to approach the forums pretty much the same way as SirAGE...
I don't think we can deduce, from the program used, how much a poster knows about coding, nor how much he/she wants to learn about coding.
I don't think this has been much of a problem before, so maybe we should not make it one now... ;)
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Scott Swedorski wrote:
Some people may not fully understand the acronyms in the title. Maybe the signature file is a better place?


I agree... While I don't see me adding such to my sig, I think that would be the more optimal location.

I'd hate to see the forums turn "exclusive" just because one doesn't use a particular piece of software. I for one, don't use VSD (much) but I have learned a lot from others who do, and find myself actually able to answer some of the easier/more common questions from others about it. I also know enough about my abilities/knowledge to differ to the "experts" when the time comes. That being said, I saw a post earlier today in the VSD thread that stated "VSD users aren't coders, nor do they/we want to be". I don't think that statement is true (just look at some of Eric's magic), and if the solution to the question at hand is to throw some code... That's what the answer is. It's all about learning, and that's what this forum is for, users learning from each other.

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Phil wrote:

I'd hate to see the forums turn "exclusive" just because one doesn't use a particular piece of software.

That being said, I saw a post earlier today in the VSD thread that stated "VSD users aren't coders, nor do they/we want to be". I don't think that statement is true (just look at some of Eric's magic), It's all about learning, and that's what this forum is for, users learning from each other.


I agree, we learn from each other and I would never want to see the forums be exclusive, because it would be shame. I was always taught that you should never criticize the help. Moreover when it is free...
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SirAGE wrote:
I do not look at what forum they are in, or even who posted them. I read the posts and if I believe I can give an answer, then I do. The answer I gave about the _blank tag was correct, because there are different ways to do it... learn.

Yet, you can not make everyone happy...


Now this makes perfect sense Sir AGE and Per does similar, so maybe a lot more do the same.

I remember well 3 years ago when i found VSD and started trying to write my first website, frequently when i hit problems i came into the forum, and was given similar code advice, it was all just gobledegoop to me.
Three years later it still is gobledegoop, hence i have brought this up with Scott previously, and again today, strange thing the bit of code you gave out WITH GOOD INTENTION was to someone who does understand code (THOUGH I WRONGLY THOUGHT NOT) but it didn't help because in VSD its very difficult still for someone to instigate.

Heaven forbid i am not trying to offend anyone, the code you gave out would undoubtedly work , but his question about the H1 tag alone suggested to me he was struggling to understand things, and in VSD we dont see H1 tags it just happens by majic :)

I will just accept it was a silly idea, just trying to keep VSD forum for beginners code free, for those who are not advanced enough to use it.

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Actually i should have added Eric's approach is brilliant, "have a look at my sdrive guide" and WOW theres some fabulous help in there for those brave enough to move on :)
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Viv ...VSD & SCCP user wrote:


I will just accept it was a silly idea, just trying to keep VSD forum for beginners code free, for those who are not advanced enough to use it.


I never said it was a bad idea, I believe the reasoning behind it was flawed. But I think if you read your quote above, you may have just came up with the perfect answer... Maybe, if Scott would allow, we could have a VSD Forum called "Beginners VSD Code Free" and keep the regular forum that is there now as the Coded VSD and let user chose which one they are comfortable in posting.

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SirAGE wrote:
The way I look at the forums are by clicking the "Show New Posts" link on the right hand side. I do not look at what forum they are in, learn.


Yep that would work, i just guess it will need a different colour background so you know which one you are in.

I think i had better drop this idea before i do offend someone

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I think the forums are just fine as they are. In most cases most people that use VSD know the forum is for people using a WYSIWYG editor and are therefore not using a lot of code type setups. Yes many do add a lot of code for things, but not everyone does.

I think the key here is to watch the forums you're posting in to know if it's something that is code based or visual based. VSD is mostly used by visual site builders. For the most part if the answer has to do with adjusting main code in a site then the VSD forums would not need HTML answers as they would do no good. If the person is looking to implement or find a script to run something in their VSD site, then by all means do what I do. I basically tell them where to find a script or how to work a program or change something in a script, but I tell them someone that uses VSD will have to tell them how to put that into the VSD since I don't use it.

Granted there's going to always be misunderstandings, and I think this is probably one of them. I think the forums are just fine though as they are, most people that use them know where to post for the program they are using, I don't think we need a beginners forum for it :)

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