Search Engine Visibility

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Hey guys!

GoDaddy has a product called "search engine visibility". The software allows you to type in your domain name (after the site has been published) and then your type in your top keywords. The software then spiders your site for all your top keywords and lets you know what needs to be done in order to optimize your site for Google (and other engines) for those keywords. It looks at meta-tags, how many times the keyword appears within the text of your site, naming graphics, etc etc etc. It looks for other problems as well. Its very comprehensive and very easy to use.

When you are finished it submits your site to major search engines with ONE click. It is an EXCELLENT software. Here is the link:

http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/traffic_b … sp?ci=9034

The only problem is that GoDaddy doesn't sell you the software, rather, the software is hosted on their servers and they charge customers PER DOMAIN to use it. Its $29.99 per domain per year.

Could Coffee Cup create a similar product and just sell us the software? I know you have FireFactor already, so perhaps just sell us whatever software system you guys are using to spider sites and optimize? People could then pay an extra fee if they wanted a CC staff to actually view the site and make further SEO suggestions.
Chad Spillars
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Chad,

That sounds like it does part of what the CoffeeCup Firefactor report does. The CoffeeCup Website Optimization area also has a free meta tag creator, and you can get a free mini-report.
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Yes, GoDaddys is far more comprehensive than the free tools on CCs web site, and doesn't FireFactor charge you $50 per site? That's almost twice what GoDaddy charges, so that defeats the whole purpose of my request. But thanks for the feedback!
Chad Spillars
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for god sakes , meta keywords have no real impact, their is no need to submit site to any engine, leave a post on a blog or forum you will be indexed pretty quick, if your writing content just write normal the keyword just needs one or two mentions in the content, the tags you want your keyowrds in title tag, h1 tag, alt tag and in the page name if possible. and guess what its free.
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Your right that search engines will find most web sites on their own, but not always. I created one site that I never submitted to SEs and it took Google a year to find it. So submitting to search engines does speed up the process of SE's finding your site (as you mentioned you can also post a link online and the spiders will see it). Also, GoDaddys software is helpful because it spiders your site and finds just about any kind of problems, dead links, etc. There are PLENTY of free tools that do this all over the internet, but I like GoDaddy's because its far more comprehensive than any of the others and is very easy to use. I just don't like to pay that much for it.
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Hello,
This is my first post here.
I tried a little experiment.
I have a website called rivetcity.com, I hand coded it all.
The website is a game fan website. I re-colored a toilet in the game from dingy white to dingy yellow (the game is Fallout 3 about after a nuclear war so everything is supposed to be dingy.)
Anyway, on one page, where I tell how I did it, I the used the phrase "yellow crapper". I repeated the phrase several times on the page without making it seem overdone.
I also have a sitemap for google on the site.
Within a couple of days my page popped up first in a search for "yellow crappers". It took a few more days and it's number one on Yahoo and Bing as well.

Now it's true no-one on earth would search for yellow crappers on the internet but I wanted to see how long and if, Google would find it.
The two most important things about getting up front on a search engine are:
The site map - very important. But also each page should have lots of references to the content of that page.

For instance name your images with the full words you want indexed. Have the 'alt=' description contain your keywords. The title of the page, description and within the body use the your key phrase in at least 2 headings "<h2>"

If you look at my page's source you can see how much the page relates to the words I wanted Google to find. (google yellow crappers) :)

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Chad Spillars wrote:
Your right that search engines will find most web sites on their own, but not always. I created one site that I never submitted to SEs and it took Google a year to find it. So submitting to search engines does speed up the process of SE's finding your site


Chad,
On the other hand, I've seen sites that got published, not submitted, and within a week showed up on SE's... Granted, not in the #1 spot, but not bad either like page 2-3. So I agree that while we can 'try' to gather information on how Google and the others do their rankings, we aren't likely to figure this out anytime soon (whole proprietory secrets and such). It'd be nice if a former, disgruntled employee would publish a tell all book on this subject :):rolleyes:
Living the dream, stocking the cream :D
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haha! If only.....

I have a friend who did some freelance work for Google and when she visited their headquarters she said it was like a fortress. She literally had to sign a contract that stated she could not talk to anyone about what she saw/did while she was there. So I didn't get any of the juicy details. :(

Unfortunately, their computers are getting so fricken smart that the only surefire way to be number 1 for your search term on Google, is to have the site with best content that's been online the longest. And that's a lot harder than just packing in some keywords and changing some file names.

I was delighted when I first published disneysubmarines.com and I noticed that Google had placed it at the very top of the first page for the search terms associated with it (disneyland, submarine voyage, finding nemo). My site is even above the submarine voyage page on Disney's own website, and the wikipedia page on the submarine voyage. Google's machines "know" that my site has more, and better content on the submarine voyage than any of the 3 or 4 dozen submarine voyage sites out there.

When the submarine ride first opened at Disneyland in 2006 so many people were googling my search terms that there were days I made over $10.00 from my Google ads. Not bad for one day. If I got that much traffic every day I'd be sitting on an extra $3600 per year.
Chad Spillars
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I agree with Chad 100% about the GoDaddy visibility package. I have been using it for years. Recently I used the coffecup SEO and it was nice, but lacked the tools that godaddy had, and it wasn’t as interactive. One of my favorite is the Meta tag checker, 1st I know they are not important but Google is always telling me mine are too short or too long or I have duplicates. How this works is it looks at all of the Meta Tags, tells you what is wrong, it give you the original one you can edit it and then go on to the next tag, when your finished you can download a file with all the tags fixed…then I just cut and paste. The whole thing works like that its pretty idiot proof, it’s made for people whom don’t even know what SEO stands for, so sometimes it gets a little teachy, but the tools on it are real time savers and I am not going from one free tool website to another, to find all the tools I want. Once you have the your site fixed up, it then helps you to submits it, you can then see back links, rankings, keywords, how your site stands against your competitors, even a really nice stats package add-on. Yes I do this myself on Google, Yahoo and Bing… but it’s nice to get a report with all listed next to each other, I use it as a to do list. It even emails you visibility reports, which I like because I get all tied up in what even website working on at the time and kind of forget some of the others and having the report emailed to me lets me keep better track. Nice package. Only thing is have about 8 domains on it now and it gets pricey at $30 a pop a year.
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Firefactor is good stuff. Played with it before and works well. I hope to do have a SEO app online in the future(open source, not as good as like the godaddy or firefactor), but will take a look at your site and make suggestions accordingly . I have a lot of 'play time' right now so we will see how it goes.

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