Foundation and Bootstrap are the two major frameworks. There are many others (Skeleton, Boilerplate, Kickstart, Montage, Sproutcore, Zebra, and others), but none have gained and held the market like Foundation and Bootstrap. For Coffeecup to continue to develop Coffeegrinder is like a local coffeeshop with its own special coffee blend trying to take on not only the other coffeeshops but also Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts coffee in the market. It's a huge amount of work and requires deep pockets to pay for advertising to convince drinkers of all the other coffees that their brew is better. Instead, Coffeecup let go of Coffeegrinder and:

1. By creating RBB and RFF, they took the two most-used frameworks and made them extremely easy to use.
2. They made each of them stand-alone (RFF and RBB) so if a person prefers to work in just one framework, they only buy the product that fits them.
3. For someone (like me) who works in both frameworks, they combined them into RSD so that one interface can work with both frameworks.
4. Kept backward compatibility for Coffeegrinder in RSD so that previous projects won't have to be redone in a different framework any time soon.

Thank you Brian, I try to read all of your posts

@ Brian: "Bainn, most sites I encounter these days have gotten rid of so much info in the name of "only adding what is important" that they cause more frustration than help. They have FAR too little information on them."

Completely agree. I seldom visit or use a good number of site now that I use to visit weekly or more.

My observation and experience has been that coupled with the lack of info that use to be there has been much more space and scrolling and multiple clicks to dig down for what may be useful.

OK, I didn't mean to start a big mess when I said "Building from mobile up forces you to only put on your site what is really important.".

My meaning was that there are a ton of sites on the Internet that have so much crap stuffed on the main page you can't find what you're looking for.

When I said building from mobile up forces you to only put on your site what is really important I was talking first about at the mobile size. That should still translate up through all the breakpoints so people are able to find what they are looking for without all the clutter that gets added to try and get people to click on things they weren't looking for in the first place.

Websites should still be clean and neat in my opinion so I hope I didn't cause an entire conversation that got out of control. My apologies if I did.

I'm with you, Ernie. Removing clutter is not the same as reducing information. Brian said something important above here, about thinking through the wording of the navigation. With the right words and terms, people should be able to find what they are looking for. And one good tip that I've been using: Ask some friends of yours to 'test run' the menu. If they find it difficult to find things, very likely other people will too.

As Inger has stated, good navigation links is critical.