The Coffee Cup experience is a good one. The shopping Cart is no exception and I purchased my copy some time ago but I have yet to open my "shop" because I need to strip down all of the graphics and make it insertable to my forums... which I have somewhat achieved but I am not going to be selling a lot of items nor will I be creating many stores for anyone let alone myself. I am looking at maybe selling 50 tee-shirts.

With this scenario in mind I cannot justify spending another $89 at this point for what I need to do... and I waited MONTHS for this designer to be released. I need the pro version and like some I cannot understand the need to put out TWO versions of the designer software at all. I "consider" the designer an add on to the Creator which I have already purchased and it costs almost TWICE the price of the program itself.

And for the record I agree with all of the positive "arguments" and comments made here. I felt that my situation needed representation too.

Although I at first agreed with you when the SSD first came out Ford, I would have to disagree today. SCD Pro is so powerful that a person would most likely get lost between what is being done by the Designer part and what is being done by the Creator part. We already have a lot of people asking that very question about the difference between the 2 and I think it would be pretty catastrophic to be honest to have it all in one. I agree the price could have been cheaper, but... on the other hand....

Someone could really make a nice business out of creating Themes for SCC alone. Should a person become truly adept at that program, which would take a while for me to do lol, they could create a pretty nice business for themselves or at least make some pretty nice cash above and beyond what CC site offers for Themes and that really makes this program stand out on it's own. It's way more than just an Addon for SCC by far. And the fact that the cost is a 'one time cost for life' which I can't even get from my menu program designers which costs me like 50 bux a year to keep up to date. That's just for menus, doesn't count anything else for the site just a menu builder lol.

Soooooooo all in all it's really not as high a price in the end as it seems to be, break that down into how much other software costs ( much higher than CC), no yearly update expenses, support that goes beyond anything we've seen pretty much anywhere. If you bought this type of program elsewhere you'd most likely spend more, or even if it were less to start with you'd have yearly fees.

I just purchased Xara3d 6 last night to try to make a Logo, it was pretty cheap $29, but there's a $20 per year upgrade fee. In 1 1/2 years of updates I will have paid what I just paid a couple weeks ago for SCD Pro and never have to pay again. So 7 years from now I'm still getting updates, for SCD Pro free. Xara will cost me $150 by that time.

Just a thought on how this really isn't as bad as it seems, it's just high at the start and we're not used to seeing that type of price at CC for anything yet is all. The thing is, it's worth every penny of it and the amount of work they had to do to make this program is far above most anything they've done before I think, so yeah, it's all good

All excellent observations Jo Ann however in MY case it simply is not a good value unless I decide to open up some sort of on-line store sometime in the future. I am not sure I intended to suggest that the designer be combined with the creator BUT I don't see a the need to create two versions of the designer.

Perhaps my perspective is nonsense and I am sure the creators of the software did not have someone like me in mind. Who knows. Maybe I will just suck it up and just go for it.

Hey Ford Doctor; I'm with ya on the two version thing.
I started out with the basic version and then today I upgraded to the Pro version. I think its a great program and well worth the money.

And perhaps after several months of sales, CC might see a significant enough difference in sales of Basic-vs-Pro (or upgrades to Pro) and decide to only offer the Pro version... Who knows?

As far as the pricing... I challenge ANYONE, to find any software that provides LIFETIME updates for FREE, and with darn near 24/7 support available, often from a VP himself . I don't think you will find a better bang for your buck anywhere, but especially in the computer world.