Suggestions for Instructional...

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Over the past few weeks, we have released a number of new knowledge base articles (instructional) to help everyone get accustomed to using RLM. I am looking for some suggestions on what the next knowledge base articles should be.

If you have any ideas on, post them here, and we will see what we can do. ;)

Here are a few that we have created so far:
http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/ … out-maker/
http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/ … out-maker/
http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/ … out-maker/
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I'd love to see a start to finish website build (using one of the RLM themes is fine - I like the Milky Way layout a lot).

It doesn't have to be an entire site necessarily, just a home page and maybe one or two others, showing the basic mock up in RLM and then completion of the project in HTML editor.

Thanks!
Tom
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I agree with Tom Galland,

And . . .

I'd like to see the instructions dumbed down a bit.
I love you guys, but you assume way too much knowledge on the part of
the user. I read some of the stuff on the columns and grids and I am
pretty much lost.

I want basic info.
How do I put in a logo
How do I put in a drop down menu from paypal
How do I put in text
How do I know what the heck it is going to look like when finished. Smile
I have 6 sites built in VSD and now I have to figure out how to rebuild them in this program and
It is so completely different, I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

I assume this is built for average people because webmasters, presumably, would not need it.
So I'd recommend that you sit down with someone who knows nothing and tell them how to
use it and make that into some tutorials.

Not being cranky, I just really need to do this and I feel like I'm reading a foreign language
when I read your instructions.

I'm thrilled that you made this, I just have no clue how to use it, even though I've spent several
hours reading and watching videos.

Thanks!
Donna
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Hiya Donna,

I won't get into much detail here other than to say I think you (and many others I'm sure) are assuming that RLM is going to be able to help you do a website visually without knowing how to code. This would be a mistaken assumption as RLM is only going to build you a structure for the site. The rest of your questions are things you would be expected to have knowledge to do.

Having said that I believe the Responsive Site Designer will be more helpful to the VSD users than RLM ever will. Not saying it can't be done using RLM, just saying that you'll have a bit of a learning curve and CC isn't really here to teach you how to build a website, only how to use their programs to best utilize it's features.

Hopefully that makes sense to you and others on VSD. Not saying don't buy it by any means, just saying it's not going to build you a website, it's going to build you a structure and you'll be responsible for inputting manually quite a bit of the elements such as all images, menu, galleries, and so on.
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I entirely agree with Donna. If this program is going to conquer the world, then the world (or enough of them) will have to understand how to use it. for example, I did a dead simple mock up. Reduced the size till it looked bad, and put in a breakpoint to make it look good again. Then I saved it. When I came to open it again the breakpoint had disappeared.

I think we need instructions WAY simpler than anything that exists at the moment.
All the Best
Ian
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Hey Ian,

RLMP should not be doing that. I have created several mock-up sites and saved them and all changes were saved. If this is not happening for you please open up a support ticket with Coffeecup and they will help you.
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ianinfrance wrote:
I entirely agree with Donna. If this program is going to conquer the world, then the world (or enough of them) will have to understand how to use it. for example, I did a dead simple mock up. Reduced the size till it looked bad, and put in a breakpoint to make it look good again. Then I saved it. When I came to open it again the breakpoint had disappeared.

I think we need instructions WAY simpler than anything that exists at the moment.

We are all for creating more instructions to make things easier for everyone but we have already made quite a few articles, videos, tutorials that include those "dead simple mockups" which walks you through everything. Understanding how all this works does take time, research and lots of patience. This is truly a program that you have to read the manual and all the supported documentation on so that everything sinks in.

We will keep adding more and more as the program develops to help people along though. Once you understand the concepts of responsive design, a light bulb will go on in your head and you will have that "ahhh moment..." :)

Take the time though and start here at http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/ … art-guide/ and read it all. I guarantee you that once you read everything, it help quite a bit.

As to the issue you are having, check your steps again. If you continue to have issues, open a support ticket and we can help you out. That should certainly not be happening. :)
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Some steps for images will have to be added to that list.
Ha en riktig god dag!
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Sorry not to have come back before. But I have had to actually do some work on a couple of sites. Badness!!

I've no idea why the breakpoints didn't get saved either, as they have always done so in subsequent attempts.

I don't know if this is the right place to mention another tricky subject for me.

I could be still trying to do too much "by hand" instead of letting RLM do it for me. I wanted to change the colour of the page background (like the old body{ background-color:#CCCCCC;} declaration. At the time, I didn't see the possibility of setting it up via the grid. So I went to have a look at the various .css files, and saw that a couple of them had the same name but with .min. in the middle. To cut a long story short, I seem to remember that RLM works with a munged css file to minimise the size. If I manually make some changes to the normal coffeegrinder.css files and then reopen the project, will these changes be reflected in the .min. version when it finally exported. I have seen you talk about a custom.css file so does coffee cup suggest that this is the file in which we make such changes?

Next. coffeegrinder.css has an awful lot of stuff (to do with buttons for example) that are useful to have available while designing a website, but 99% of which are a complete waste of space once I've finished the design process. Is there a way of saying to RLM "trim down the unused CSS definitions" before exporting a finished CSS file?


All the Best
Ian
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The changes you do in the normal (not minimized) css files do not automatically jump over to the minimized version. You can, however, use the CC programme Website Insight to make your own minimized files. Works on html, css and js files.

You can't hide any of the features in RLM, if that is what you mean. But you don't have to use all the features. The way I'm learning this, and probably some others too, is starting with the basics and then expand my knowledge when I get on top of the elementary bits.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway

My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com



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