Liberating files from the "Working"...

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As a new user of The HTML Editor, I downloaded files from my pre-existing site (at reverse.org) to the program's "Working" folder.

Then I revised the pages and saved them within the "Working" folder. They looked great and all the links worked. I was Very Happy.

But then I clicked on "Test in Browser" - and all I got were the UN-revised (original) pages.

And - when I copied the files out of the "Working" folder to send them to a friend, the copied versions were all of the UN-revised (original) pages.

What am I doing wrong? How can I see the revised pages when clicking on "Test in Browser" and get the revised pages to send to a friend?

Thanks!!!!!
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Hiya Kenneth

When you say "working" folder, what location are you actually talking about? Most of the program now works on Website Projects setups, did you set one up for your site? I'm guessing that you have them downloaded to some location that might not be the same place it's saving to? Just guessing here since I don't know how you have it setup at the moment.

I would suggest you setup a Website Project if you haven't done this already. When you upload you can do so right within the program which gives you an immediate way to test that it's working correctly and uploading the correct files. When you have a Website Project setup, all the files are then within that location so you can always be sure you have not only opened the right ones, but that they are also saved to the same location.

Without knowing exactly how you did what you did, it's a bit hard to figure out how to help you on this issue.
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Thanks so much for your response. I'm really desperate to solve this problem, and a lot is riding on it.

Here's what I did: I copied my existing site's files, and then opened my computer's Program Files folder, scrolled down to CoffeeCup Software, and then within that folder scrolled down to the program's Working folder (it appears just after the Themes folder, and before the XHTMLData folder), and pasted the files into that Working folder.

Then I opened the HTML Editor software, clicked on Open Existing Files, clicked on the My Computer tab at the far left of the screen, and scrolled down to the Working folder (as described above) to access the files.

Then I revised each file extensively and saved them. But when when any of the files is open and I click on "Test in Browser" I get the original version of each. A tech person at CoffeeCup suggested I change the names of the files. But when I do that, my browser (Firefox) says it can't find the file (and asks if I've renamed it).
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Hiya Ken,

If you have someone at CC already helping you then I would definitely stay working with them as they will get you setup right quickly I'm sure.

In the meantime I would do what I suggested above as the Working folder isn't actually the way to do this anymore. Create a Website Project:

At the top choose "My Websites >> New Website Project" and then fill in the information. Move your site to a location outside of the CC programs files folder, this will be less apt to be lost with future uninstall/reinstalls of the programs. I created a Website Projects folder in My Documents folder and that's where I put all my websites. Just create a separate folder for each website you work on and put all the files in there. Point the project setup to that location for your new project and once you have that all setup you should be good to go.

In the meantime, you need to find out where on your computer that the files were saved. It sounds to me like the HTML Editor didn't save them in the location that the originals were in. I would try opening one of those files, edit it, then do a Save As and see if you can tell where it's putting it. I'm betting it's not in the same place as the originals and that your changes are safe somewhere, you just need to find them.

The other way would be to do a Windows Search for one of the file names and see if you can find it that way. I am very sure they are there somewhere though if the program allowed you to save them.

When/If you do find those files, move those to your New Website Project area (I would suggest making a folder called Original Site Files or something similar so you always have a copy of the files you just downloaded to fall back on.
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Thanks again Wolverana -

It's saving them in the Working folder, and I can see them all in that folder.

I've also set up a Website project and identified the Working folder as the one in which the files reside. But I still have the same problem with the "Test in Browser" files being the unrevised ones.

(Haven't had a response from CC since the first suggestion to rename the files.)

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Suggestion: Move them out of that Working folder to a new location completely. This will assure that future installs or uninstalls won't accidentally lose your files on you. Create a folder somewhere in your documents rather than in the program files area and call it whatever you like, I named mine Website Projects to keep it simple and easy to find. Then create a folder inside that one with a version of your website's name (no spaces, use underscores _ and/or dashes - for them) to separate each website you might work on. Point your website projects to those locations rather than the Working folder.

I realize that uninstalling the program may not ever delete that Working folder on you, but I've had chance to manually delete files myself when trying to clean out programs, and not realize that I had deleted something very important such as that folder, simply because I knew it was associated with the program and wanted to remove it all and start over. This pretty much ruins your site lol. So that's why I suggest to do it this way outside of the program files themselves.

Did you try doing a computer search to see if you could find any other duplicates of those file names? Try that and see if it didn't save them somewhere else. Choose a name of a file that you know it won't find a billion of on your computer which will make it easier to wade through the results :)
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I always work from my own directories. Only cause I'm a rebel. :)
CoffeeCup... Yeah, they are the best!
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BINGO! Your good, Wolverana!

Found them in a folder called C:\Users\Ken\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\CoffeeCup Software\Working - which is a totally different place from C:\Program Files\CoffeeCup Software\Working.

But I'd already decided to start all over by creating a Website Project first, then dumping my files into it, and then editing them - which also works, and which is what I should have done in the first place.

This way there will be no problem having them all in one place and working together.

But thank you forever, Jo Ann, for being there when I needed you!
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Postscript: When I went to get them at the location cited in my previous post, there wasn't a folder called AppData within C:\Users\Ken\

So I guess I'll just continue revising within my new Website project, and note that following instructions is sometimes the way to go.

Thanks again for hanging with me.

Ken
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It is a hidden folder in your user directory. You have to tell Windows to display hidden folders.

Menu: Tools, Folder Options, View Tab, Show hidden files and folders (radio button).
CoffeeCup... Yeah, they are the best!

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