HTML CC Editor, VSD and other web...
Hi gurus,
Just joined CC and happily purchased $200 worth of godies. Over the moon with quality.
I am not HTML or php experienced but I am not fully new to programming. After all I got master degree in el. Engineering and way way back at uni times I used to do some C++ programing for fun. So yes I can easily pick up on HTML structure, commands etc. but it takes time and I am not very keen on it because thanks to CC I honestly do not need it...
BUT. I was able to pick up CC HTML editor for $20 discount. So I have it:)
Now when you know what the skill is (there are many outthere like me sitting somewhere between HTML editor and VSD. VSD seems to be too simple for me and HTML is on other scale... so now here it come the question
QUESTION 1:
Lets say you want to start making decent website that is more complex.
And lets say you start with VSD+all the wonderfull tools of CC (forms, fonts, images,menus,carts,...) and out of the sudden you reach the maximum you can squize from VSD and/or other programs you like.
Is it than possible to get entire CODE copy paste into HTML Editor, save it as project and only than to start experimenting with perhaps more sophisticated improvements?
How well is CC HTML editor interracting with VSD+godies and possibly other applications like for instance WEB STUDIO 5?
QUESTION 2:
If your webhosting wants to utilise databases and your web is on non S-drive server (MySQL) is it than possible to enter php code into HTML Editor provided I would only than (once I do the basic.medium/higher medium myself?) give it to php expert for a fee?
Just joined CC and happily purchased $200 worth of godies. Over the moon with quality.
I am not HTML or php experienced but I am not fully new to programming. After all I got master degree in el. Engineering and way way back at uni times I used to do some C++ programing for fun. So yes I can easily pick up on HTML structure, commands etc. but it takes time and I am not very keen on it because thanks to CC I honestly do not need it...
BUT. I was able to pick up CC HTML editor for $20 discount. So I have it:)
Now when you know what the skill is (there are many outthere like me sitting somewhere between HTML editor and VSD. VSD seems to be too simple for me and HTML is on other scale... so now here it come the question
QUESTION 1:
Lets say you want to start making decent website that is more complex.
And lets say you start with VSD+all the wonderfull tools of CC (forms, fonts, images,menus,carts,...) and out of the sudden you reach the maximum you can squize from VSD and/or other programs you like.
Is it than possible to get entire CODE copy paste into HTML Editor, save it as project and only than to start experimenting with perhaps more sophisticated improvements?
How well is CC HTML editor interracting with VSD+godies and possibly other applications like for instance WEB STUDIO 5?
QUESTION 2:
If your webhosting wants to utilise databases and your web is on non S-drive server (MySQL) is it than possible to enter php code into HTML Editor provided I would only than (once I do the basic.medium/higher medium myself?) give it to php expert for a fee?
Hi Cintaku,
Question 1 is two questions.
Part A: I'm thinking your asking about taking the code that VSD generates for a page and bringing it into the editor. There's a few users that have done this either to give them something VSD couldn't do or something they didn't know how to make VSD do. I wouldn't recommend this approach as VSD will overwrite the page when you publish through VSD. There is a way to do it but it can be difficult to keep track of.
Part B: I don't have Web Studio 5 so I don't know. I use the editor all the time to tweak code I place in html boxes in my VSD site.
Question 2 : I guess giving the work to an expert might be necessary but we won't know that until you try and find out you might need an expert.
Question 1 is two questions.

Part A: I'm thinking your asking about taking the code that VSD generates for a page and bringing it into the editor. There's a few users that have done this either to give them something VSD couldn't do or something they didn't know how to make VSD do. I wouldn't recommend this approach as VSD will overwrite the page when you publish through VSD. There is a way to do it but it can be difficult to keep track of.
Part B: I don't have Web Studio 5 so I don't know. I use the editor all the time to tweak code I place in html boxes in my VSD site.
Question 2 : I guess giving the work to an expert might be necessary but we won't know that until you try and find out you might need an expert.

I can't hear what I'm looking at.
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
So it looks like one or the other. Not as much one and the other:)
I do not have VSD yet. I downloaded trial version but did not play enough to evaluate.
Can you than utilise VSD only than and update HTML code in there or HTML code is not accesible in VSD?
I do not have VSD yet. I downloaded trial version but did not play enough to evaluate.
Can you than utilise VSD only than and update HTML code in there or HTML code is not accesible in VSD?
All good now. I have managed to download trial again. It locked me before so I could not test it. I see the HTML now.
I use the HTML editor and VSD equally. As I said before you can use the editor to help you work out html code that you working on before dropping it into VSD. Take a look at the site in my signature. This is purely a VSD site except one page. That one I used the editor to manipulate to show how to do something in VSD that is a global setting that would affect the look of my entire site. VSD is what webdesign should be. If you have any questions there's lots of examples on the forum backed by the users who built them.

I can't hear what I'm looking at.
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
Thanks Eric,
I will spend some reasonable time to play with all of it. It is the best way to avoid questions that are best to learn and answer by trial error. And than collect questions that are decent.
Thanks
One issue I do already know will bother me a fair bit is the limitation of forms when it comes to for entry fields being numbers and/or currency.
I will spend some reasonable time to play with all of it. It is the best way to avoid questions that are best to learn and answer by trial error. And than collect questions that are decent.
Thanks
One issue I do already know will bother me a fair bit is the limitation of forms when it comes to for entry fields being numbers and/or currency.
Hiya Cintaku,
For forms, get the Web Form Buiilder, with the Regular Expressions setup built into it, you are pretty limitless on what you can do for fields with it.
As for one of your first questions, yes you "can" put all your site into VSD and then use the files it publishes to your computer in the HTML Editor, but as Eric said, there's no going back which is the limitation there. Once out of VSD always out of VSD as it cannot import any changes made outside of the program at all. But it is editable fully in the HTML Editor, just that the code is created for visual layout so it doesn't look like typical HTML Code at all that you would normally build manually in a coding system. It's a bit confusing and definitely not user friendly to work your way around manually editing the VSD code. Doable yes, easy no, practical.. I guess that depends on your skills.
Good luck on it regardless of which way you go, it's always an adventure and really a lot of fun learning and playing with sites
For forms, get the Web Form Buiilder, with the Regular Expressions setup built into it, you are pretty limitless on what you can do for fields with it.
As for one of your first questions, yes you "can" put all your site into VSD and then use the files it publishes to your computer in the HTML Editor, but as Eric said, there's no going back which is the limitation there. Once out of VSD always out of VSD as it cannot import any changes made outside of the program at all. But it is editable fully in the HTML Editor, just that the code is created for visual layout so it doesn't look like typical HTML Code at all that you would normally build manually in a coding system. It's a bit confusing and definitely not user friendly to work your way around manually editing the VSD code. Doable yes, easy no, practical.. I guess that depends on your skills.
Good luck on it regardless of which way you go, it's always an adventure and really a lot of fun learning and playing with sites

Thank you Jo,
That is making sense...
The entire game of websites, SQL, databases, php etc. is very much a matter of jugling and combining, shifting, copying, pasting,storing, moving, remembering, tweaking style of different software, applications, tools unless you are a proffesional code programmer and even they do copy paste etc. except they do it to gain time and efficiency as opposed to others (like me) to seek ways around to achieve something without codes:)
CC is extremely good because it cumulates most of it under one roof. I find CC very tidy in presentation...
That is making sense...
The entire game of websites, SQL, databases, php etc. is very much a matter of jugling and combining, shifting, copying, pasting,storing, moving, remembering, tweaking style of different software, applications, tools unless you are a proffesional code programmer and even they do copy paste etc. except they do it to gain time and efficiency as opposed to others (like me) to seek ways around to achieve something without codes:)
CC is extremely good because it cumulates most of it under one roof. I find CC very tidy in presentation...
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