May be. I just adjusted the hue to what I wanted and poked the numbers in. I seem to recall you can adjust the background color in the regular menu using RGB values, but maybe I'm mixing up VSD and another program.

if you know the values yes it's that easy but for us beginners it's pretty much a hassle finding the values, isn't it? I don't know for sure I use color schemer to get the values and add them as you do, but....

I just use the eyedropper in Paint Shop Pro and pick part of an image I want to match up with.

interesting. ANother thing you can teach or explain to me Spinny, I never ever cared about Validation, why is that so important when they get spidered no matter what, and with so many sites out there, I find it all gets to where it's gonna be listed in a matter of time anyway. I don't sell anything so maybe that's why I'm not worried about it, I just don't get it.

I use Xara 4 Pro and photoshop

Well, I guess because it's more than just what the search bots see. Also, such as the issue I was having, code that wasn't validating also meant some of my meta tags weren't being seen where they were supposed to be, so none of that info would be available to the bots.

Some clients don't care about validated code, but a lot do, even if they don't even know what it really means. All they know is they've heard there's a difference and they're not paying for "not valid" code, by cracky! The purists, of course, insist on validity for its own sake, and if your code validates you can lay claim to some cred for marketing purposes (which helps inflame the hype, I admit).

In fact, some code problems can cause your page to load in quirks mode in browsers, which could torpedo your whole design. There's no guarantee that browsers can handle valid code properly as it is, but making the code right is the part you have control over.

I do know you never want to deliver code to a client only to have them poke the URL into a validator and have it fail. That would be bad. I have yet to collect a dime for a web design but I intend to learn only good habits as I go, in case I ever do.

Besides, I'm more of an engineer than an artist and good code matters to me.

This is a known issue and we have it fixed. We will roll out the updated version Monday.

You guys rock!

Some of the code that does not validate now will actually still do what you want. The issue is some of that code may not be supported by future browsers. One example would be the <center> tag which has been depreciated. It still works in most browsers (haven't checked if it works with Google Chrome) but sometime in the future, browsers may not center your content if you use the <center> tag.

Validating your pages could be seen as insurance that your pages will continue to work.

(just my 2 cents worth)

Great point, Bill. That goes also, methinks, for all the code out there that calls Flash and suchlike using the <embed> tag. At some point support for that is going to evaporate and only code that uses <object> is going to work. In the meantime the validators just yell about it.

Even iframes are going to vanish some day, and I'm going to have to adapt.

Object tags can be used instead of iframes, but it's harder (maybe impossible?) to get a consistent look across browsers.

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As Bill and Spinny have pointed out, validation makes your pages more future proof and more consistent looking across browsers. If you are going to use CSS, it's much easier to style and find styling problems when you're building upon valid html.