The website I do for my church has over 25 pages, which is getting long for saving and uploading. We also have an archive of six years of sermons on the site (about 70 pages) I would like to create a separate web site for them under VSD and upload it to the same site as the rest of the site.
I tried this recently and the whole site went into shock. Images did not load up, some of the text was not there, the menu bar disappeared, etc.
However the new site (sermon pages) looked good with the exception that I could not get the front page of the new site to show up.
Do you think having the two index (front) pages created this problem? Is anyone aware of a work around for doing something like this? I could just leave them under FrontPage 2003, but the CoffeeCup pages look so much better.

site- http://www.stbonifacecincinnati.com/
sermons/archive- http://www.stbonifacecincinnati.com/Fr-Joes-Corner.html

Thanks for any assistance-
Tim

Yes having two index pages would do it

Can you have subdomains on your hosting? That would be the better way to go. Then your sermons site for example might have a url something like...

http://www.fr_joes_corner.stbonifacecincinnati.com/

or

http://www.sermons.stbonifacecincinnati.com/

I'd go for all lower case and underscores rather than hyphens as well when naming your pages. Some browsers don't like caps or other punctuation.

If doing them in VSD you would need to have two separate projects one for each site and upload them separately. The main site would go into the public_html folder on your server and the sermons one would need to go in its own sub-domain folder that would be created when you set up your sub-domain.

Another thing you could try is one index page that has selections to take you to either place? Basically a Dual page that has a link or image depicting each of the sites and people can pick the one they want to go to from there. They can then bookmark the main page of that particular site itself. This would then feed off Tassie's suggestion of creating a subdomain or just create a new folder on your server and put the new folders in there, either way works.

Another thing you can do is separate them completely and get another domain name for the other site. Domain names are pretty cheap these days, in most cases under $10 usd/year so it's pretty feasible for that. When you buy domains there is usually a built in redirect system within the site you paid for the domain on such as Godaddy.com or MyDomain.com or many others, and you can set it up so that it redirects that domain name to whatever page you want. This way you can put all the files for one of the sites in a subfolder or subdomain, either way, and direct the new domain to the index page in that folder.

So there's definitely options you can do this with

Tim-
Here's an example: I created a website here - www.myecco.org if you click on the small red star in the upper right corner of the page it will take you to where I am re-doing the site (in Beta) in a sub-folder I called Beta.

Primary site: www.myecco.org/index.html
Beta: www.myecco.org/Beta/index.html

So in your case if your website was MrTim.com (primary site) you might create a folder on your server called OldSermons. That is where you will put your secondary site (archive sermons). When you create the secondary website in VSD, give it a different name than your primary site-like PastSermons (or whatever)

Primary site: MrTim.com/index.html
Secondary site: MrTime/OldSermons/index.html - sure you load your VSD (PastSermons) into this folder - you have to adjust your FTP settings in VSD before you upload it.

Then on your primary site, MrTim, create a link/button to take folks to the PastSermons site and
maybe a similar button on the PastSermons site to take folks back to MrTim.

When you upload PastSermons via VSD it will create folders/subfolders it needs in/under the folder you created (OldSermons). Once you link to the index.html in OldSermons it will look for all images, text, etc on your secondary in that folder and its related folders/sub-folders to run that site.

Hope this helps rather than confuses you more.
-Mike

I think that probably you are going to have to use tassie's suggestion of a sub-domain in this case as I am not sure that you can give a VSD starter page a file name other than index or default. Having the sub-domain would overcome that issue.

Tim,
Open 2 separate folders for uploading 2 different site’s files upon the same hosting, you can make 2 sub-domains to maintain those, much easier than 2 index pages in the same site that will error the host instruct.


For example:
http://church.stbonifacecincinnati.com/
http://FrJoesCorner.stbonifacecincinnati.com/

FungsBiz Web Developer

Hi tim,

You could make a subdirectory on your main site, called for instance 'sermons'. Then you make a separate site for your sermons (don't forget to make a 'home' button that links to your main domain on this site:)), and upload the sermons site in that subdirectory. Then, on your main site, you make a button called 'sermons' that links to the sermons subdirectory. Voila. Now the two index.html files won 't conflict, the 2 sites being completeley separated. I've done this many times this way

Thanks for all the info everyone. Creating a sub-domain is beyond my expertise at this time, but I guess it's time to try it because I'm also going to be setting up the school site soon which will be a sub-domain under a different URL.

Tim. Don't panic. Normally your hosting server will offer sub-domains as part of their service. So if you go into their site and look around, you will probably find some information and istructions how to set one up.
If you tell us who your server is we can probably point you in the right direction to the specific page.

Well, I tried to set up a sub-domain on my server but access is blocked. I have been waiting for three weeks now to get my host to set up the school sub-domain, so maybe setting up a separate folder for them is best. However even in a separate folder there will be an index page, correct? What will happen if there are two index pages on the domain, even if one is in a separate folder?
As far as naming files, VSD will not let me separate words or insert dashes or underscores. They are deleted when saving. Without the caps and dashes the name all runs together. Then I figured out to open the page properties after creating the page to alter the file name. Once I got going that way I just re-named all the pages using the caps and dashes, but I guess it needs to be changed.