Hello members,
I'm new and I do not want to start a thread about what is the best software. I used Dreamweaver for a long time and recently switched to Coffeecup HTML editor. Everything works fine and sometimes you've got to do a littele search-work in order to find what I was able to do in dreamweaver.
But I need your help. I was used to make templates with editable and non editable regions. But I can not find this back in Coffeecup...
Can someon give me the golden tip or is there a way to work around?
Thanks in advance.
Jef Gees
Registered User
9 posts
Eric Rohloff
Senior Advisor
20,266 posts
So you want templates that have regions that are lockable?
I can't hear what I'm looking at.
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
It's easy to overlook something you're not looking for.
This is a site I built for my work.(RSD)
http://esmansgreenhouse.com
This is a site I built for use in my job.(HTML Editor)
https://pestlogbook.com
This is my personal site used for testing and as an easy way to share photos.(RLM imported to RSD)
https://ericrohloff.com
Inger
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All the elements of a CC template are editable. But that doesn't mean that you MUST edit them. Just leave the bits that you are satisfied with and edit the rest.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Jef Gees
Registered User
9 posts
sorry Eric, but I think i was not quite clear enough. Maybe due to the handicap of the language (Dutch and English).
What I meant is the following:
In Dreamweaver (DW) you can create a new htm or html page. You can make your layout that you want to appear on every page of your website. If you're done you can save this htm or html file in a lot of different exrtensions. And among them is a possibility to save this page as template. Better known in DW as a *.dwt file. Whenever you update the template, al the pages are updated by one single click. The predefined layout in the template is something you cannot change (that is what I meant by non editable region). And all the pages create on this .dwt file or template have areas where you can put content (text, images, ....) That's what I meant with editable regions.
Sorry that I was not that clear.
I also miss the library (don't mean the snippets). In DW it's called assets. I think that both possibilities are somewhere in the html-editor, but to be honnest, I do not know where to look.
I hope that the above is clear now.
And by the way nice sites you mentioned.
Grtz,
What I meant is the following:
In Dreamweaver (DW) you can create a new htm or html page. You can make your layout that you want to appear on every page of your website. If you're done you can save this htm or html file in a lot of different exrtensions. And among them is a possibility to save this page as template. Better known in DW as a *.dwt file. Whenever you update the template, al the pages are updated by one single click. The predefined layout in the template is something you cannot change (that is what I meant by non editable region). And all the pages create on this .dwt file or template have areas where you can put content (text, images, ....) That's what I meant with editable regions.
Sorry that I was not that clear.
I also miss the library (don't mean the snippets). In DW it's called assets. I think that both possibilities are somewhere in the html-editor, but to be honnest, I do not know where to look.
I hope that the above is clear now.
And by the way nice sites you mentioned.
Grtz,
Inger
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I have never seen an option to save as template in the Editor. But what we do, we create a css file with definitions of layout, colours etc, link to it from the html files, and if you want to change something, like the font size or the background colour, you do it in the css file and it will display on all the pages. I'm sure a css file, or a style section, is incorporated in the .dwt file, but I don't use DW, so I don't know for sure.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Jef Gees
Registered User
9 posts
Hoi Inger Eik, that what I was looking : the option to save as template. For the CSS files I work with Rapid CSS and Topstyle. You can do practically the same in DW but I never got used to work with it. Rapid css and Topstyle are quite very good programs for me. You're right to link the css file to the html file. You then change font or color or whatever .... But you still have to change the text in each page seperatly. Or am i wrong?
Maybe it's better tha have a look at http://gees.dyndns.org:8064/Nathalie/ i am not so good in explaining but if you'll have a look in the code you'll notice pieces of code in the <body>
The following is a library item. If you use this item you can put it wherever you want it. If you want to change tjis library item, it is possible without having to change the pages seperately.
<!-- #BeginLibraryItem "/Library/NathalieNavLinksSch.lbi" -->
<div id="navigationSch">
<ul>
<li>.........
.......
<li><a href=#">text</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
<!-- #EndLibraryItem -->
The spaces that are free to work in (to put content in) are marked with:
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="InhoudContentLogBox" -->
.................................
<!-- InstanceEndEditable -->
This could be a little bit the same with what you can achieve with a cms program.
Maybe it's better tha have a look at http://gees.dyndns.org:8064/Nathalie/ i am not so good in explaining but if you'll have a look in the code you'll notice pieces of code in the <body>
The following is a library item. If you use this item you can put it wherever you want it. If you want to change tjis library item, it is possible without having to change the pages seperately.
<!-- #BeginLibraryItem "/Library/NathalieNavLinksSch.lbi" -->
<div id="navigationSch">
<ul>
<li>.........
.......
<li><a href=#">text</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
<!-- #EndLibraryItem -->
The spaces that are free to work in (to put content in) are marked with:
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="InhoudContentLogBox" -->
.................................
<!-- InstanceEndEditable -->
This could be a little bit the same with what you can achieve with a cms program.
Inger
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Since I don't use DW, I don't know this, but are you talking about a CMS? A web site where you can log in online as an admin and edit online? I have seen such comments when used for other CMS programmes, where you create a site and make certain parts of it editable for others.
If you are indeed talking CMS, there is nothing like that build into the CC HTML Editor, but there are various such frameworks that you can find online. Snippetmaster is one of them. Easy to install, easy to make work.
If you are indeed talking CMS, there is nothing like that build into the CC HTML Editor, but there are various such frameworks that you can find online. Snippetmaster is one of them. Easy to install, easy to make work.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Inger
Senior Advisor
14,621 posts
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Oh, forgot something: The CC Editor has built-in CSS that can even handle css3. I don't know Rapid CSS, and Top Style I checked out years ago, and it may have got more developed since then.
Ha en riktig god dag!
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Inger, Norway
My work in progress:
Components for Site Designer and the HTML Editor: https://mock-up.coffeecup.com
Jef Gees
Registered User
9 posts
Both Rapid CSS en Topstyle can handle CSS3.
But still did not get any answer on the question if yes or no there is a possibility tomake a template from an new html page. Thanks Eik for trying to find a solution.
But still did not get any answer on the question if yes or no there is a possibility tomake a template from an new html page. Thanks Eik for trying to find a solution.
Jo Rice
Senior Advisor
10,951 posts
Hiya Jef,
Unfortunately the HTML Editor does not have the ability to do any type of "includes" on it's own unless you code them in yourself. At least from what I'm seeing that you posted it looks like an "include" type of statement to me that is pulling information from another page to the other pages to include it into it. This is something that is done manually with the HTML Editor and using "includes" has a lot of pro's and con's of which I'm no expert on so I'll leave that to someone that can explain them better. I do know that you'd have to have extra programs installed to be able to view them which Dreamweaver has internally built into their system (hence why they get the big bucks lol). I'm sure someone else can tell you more about how that all works.
Unfortunately the HTML Editor does not have the ability to do any type of "includes" on it's own unless you code them in yourself. At least from what I'm seeing that you posted it looks like an "include" type of statement to me that is pulling information from another page to the other pages to include it into it. This is something that is done manually with the HTML Editor and using "includes" has a lot of pro's and con's of which I'm no expert on so I'll leave that to someone that can explain them better. I do know that you'd have to have extra programs installed to be able to view them which Dreamweaver has internally built into their system (hence why they get the big bucks lol). I'm sure someone else can tell you more about how that all works.
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