Image mapper problem - Page 2

User 1886003 Photo


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Ok, I get it now. Guess that wasn't so bad.

But again, who determines what the URL will be for each page?
I can't just make something up and put it in the URL box. I'm still in the figuring-out-what-I-want-to-do-stage but eventually to get it on the web, a URL has to go in those boxes. When I do start putting this together for real, how will I know what URL to use? I'd like to put in a valid URL as I create the page rather than have to come back to 104 different pages to enter a URL.
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Your base URL's will be your Domain Name. You can add folders as needed to make additional URL's.

www.yourdomain.com
www.yourdomain.com/first_file
www.yourdomain.com/second_file

Within each folder you will have pages.

www.yourdomain.com/first_file/index.html

Once you have your Domain Name, you can control the file structure to get as many URL's as needed to organize your site.
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User 1886003 Photo


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Like this?

www.thebible.com (the website)
www.thebible.com/oldtestiment (a folder in the website)
www.thebible.com/oldtestiment/genesis (a sub-folder in the "old testiment" folder)
www.thebible.com/oldtestiment/genesis/thebeginning (a page in "Genesis" in the old testiment sub-folder)
www.thebible.com/oldtestiment/genesis/t … ng/verse14 (a target on the page "the beginning".

Do I have the gist of it?
User 597929 Photo


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Except the pages themselves will end in .htm or .html (they are the same, some design programs just shorten it).

If you just go to the address itself (I'll use my site as an example), the URL is:

http://www.spinland.biz

Since I didn't specify a page, every browser automatically looks for "index.htm" or "index.html" to start from. That means your home page will always be called that. Then you can name your other pages anything you like (with some limits on characters, like no weird symbols), so when I made a page that has a contact form on it I called it "contacts.html" and the whole URL for it is:

http://www.spinland.biz/contacts.html

If you're using VSD to do your web site it doesn't support folders under the main one so all of your pages are going to look like this:

http://www.mydomain.com/mypage.html

again, except for the home page which will have to be called "index."

Make sense?
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I think so.

ww.thekitchen.com Brings you to my site where you find a picture of a kitchen.
Hover over, then click on the oven temperature dial and it will bring you to the "bake the pie" page to the paragraph entitled "set oven temp.", because where it says URL, I wrote:
ww.thekitchen.com/bakethepie/oventemp.html

Had I clicked on the broom in the corner, it still would have brought me to "bake the pie" page, but would have scrolled down the page a little farther to the paragraph entitled "clean up", because I wrote in the URL box:
ww.thekitchen.com/bakethepie/cleanup.html

Had I wanted to make some fresh squeezed lemonaid, which is on a different page then "bake the pie", I would write in the URL box:
ww.thekitchen.com/therefridgerator/makelemonaide/squeezethelemons.html

Do I have it?
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Sounds like you pretty much have it. I would caution, that you might want to make sure you don't overuse or over-complicate the metaphoric links. Remember that some people will get it naturally, others will get it accidently (meaning they'll move their mouse around until they find what they are looking for), and some others just won't get it (they give up if it's not obvious how to navigate).
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Mostly. The cleanup.html is a link to another full page, not a place on that page. Doing anchors within a page and linking to them is a little different, but only a little.

Again, with VSD the only URLs will be like www.thekitchen.com/some_page.html because it doesn't support making multiple other folders for sticking the pages into, such as www.thekitchen.com/some_folder/some_other_page.html.
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Bruzer wrote:
hi william,
a URl is a website http://www,coffeecup.com or in your case to one of your pages (in VSD) it's pagename.htmlhttp://kellyinfo.com/crazy/284.gif
sorry BillR


Bruzer,

Nope!

"Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs, aka URLs) are short strings that identify resources in the web: documents, images, downloadable files, services, electronic mailboxes, and other resources. They make resources available under a variety of naming schemes and access methods such as HTTP, FTP, and Internet mail addressable in the same simple way. They reduce the tedium of "log in to this server, then issue this magic command ..." down to a single click."

I got this from the authority at http://www.w3.org/Addressing/

URL and URI are different terms for the same thing, and each page or file on a website has a URI. If I provide a URI to a specific image on my website, it would look like this http://www.roberson-family.com/img/robersonfamily.png
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The reason Image Map is appealing to me is that some newer mechanics aren't going to know specific details about the machine, section assemblies, individual part names, etc. (kind of like me trying to learn all this stuff) If they had a picture and can just point and click to the "gizmo" that their looking to fix, it might be easier for some this way. Nothing else, it might avert a few sentences of theirs that I would have to read.

"i want 2 replace that metil thin thats hooks 2 the plastick rownd part that makes the pins go up u no after it gos threw the hole"

(It's a real pleasure writing with you folks who know how to spell and use punctuation!)

Maybe that's a topic for the "new software" forum for CC. Decifer incoming messages and translate it into an understandable language.

Anyway, I have a long way to go yet, but thanks once again to you guys, the muddy waters are a little clearer today.

I downloaded both menu builder programs and have been playing with those too. (you gettin' the feeling that more questions are commin'?)

Thanks again for all your help! Bill

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Again, with VSD the only URLs will be like www.thekitchen.com/some_page.html because it doesn't support making multiple other folders for sticking the pages into, such as www.thekitchen.com/some_folder/some_other_page.html.


So using the last line in the quote- Did the browser look right past "some_folder" and bring me to "some_other_page" because that's what had ".html" attached to it?

Doing anchors within a page and linking to them is a little different, but only a little.


When do I get to find out how this is done? Or did you explain it already and it right over my head? (dam! fixing these machines are hard!)

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