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Do you have any visuals regarding Coffee Cup's way of adding and deleting existing webpage projects? Mostly my snaggs. www.cableguymom.com

I learned HTML code, CSS, and to use WSFTP in college about 10 years ago. Everything you see on my site has been meticulously hand entered or deleted.

I need to be educated on how CoffeeCup is making this meticulous operation simpler. So far, I don't seem to find what I need.

I need some printed/visual instructions that deals only with getting my preexisting files into CoffeeCup and how to get the webpages I have changed and "cleaned up" by me to my satisfaction.

Another question - Can I use my WSFTP as server? Or do I need to use one of yours?

I plan to work in a separate file in CoffeeCup only and have my existing folders in another file until I get this down pat.

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I think i know what you want.

1. use any ftp program you wish to download your pages to a directory of your choosing on your hard drive.
2. make a copy of this folder to anyplace you wish on your hard drive.
3. in CC HTML editor 2010se (free for you to update to if you do not already have it) select My Websites then New Website Project, and in the pop up window give it a name, and browse (the little file folder with the green arrow beside the website project location window) to your folder where you saved the copy of your website.
4. ignore all the server and file info stuff it is optional
5. select OK, CC will create a project with the existing files on your hard drive.

but considering that your code is old, it might be simpler to download your site as in step 1. and start a site from scratch using some of your old data in the new pages

a good resource is http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp for HTML and CSS as well as here these forums, we like helping out.

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OH, when your done, use the FTP software of your choice to upload the results.
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Another thing to consider that makes the HTML Editor even more useful is that you really don't "need" an external FTP program to download or upload your site's files. If you setup a website project and you setup the FTP settings, you can highlight a file in the tree on the left (easiest when using My Websites tab) and right click and choose upload. It's that easy. You can upload multiple files/folders at the same time also which makes updating quick and easy. Setting up the FTP settings isn't too difficult and if you need assistance with that just hollar and let us know who your hosting server is for your site so we can help make sure the settings are correct.

I would have to agree with david here also that you might be further ahead to start from scratch with maybe either a premade theme that you can alter to your liking with your own images and backgrounds etc. or just a layout that you would add your own images and such to. I think starting with a premade theme would be the easiest though as you can then see how it all ties together with the images and layout settings in the CSS. Things have changed an awful lot over the past 10 years so if you haven't done site building for a bunch of years I would suggest you do the tutorials around the internet also. You can find some great tutorials at http://www.w3schools.com/ which has tutorials for a lot of different languages.

Also one of the neat things is you are coming back into site building at the dawning of a new age of coding versions with the new HTML5 and CSS3 already in the making. Although they aren't fully developed and released yet, quite a bit of it is already usable and the newest version of the HTML Editor 2010 SE has a nice example in it for you to play around with.

Wish you luck on your adventure Snoopy, I think you'll find lots of fun things to do with a site compared to 10 years ago :)
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here is a link to the forum where i posted some playing around with html5 and css3
http://www.coffeecup.com/forums/website-design-and-development/html5-and-css3-the-deep-end/
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david wilson wrote:
I think i know what you want.
but considering that your code is old, it might be simpler to download your site as in step 1. and start a site from scratch using some of your old data in the new pages

a good resource is http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp for HTML and CSS as well as here these forums, we like helping out.


Could you gently nudge me over to Step 1 as you say above, please?

How will I know what old data will work and what won't?

I'd really like to import my background, and some of my headers.

Is there a pdf to get me started? To be honest with you, I'm kind of scared and angry. Not at anyone - especially at Cofee Cup -- but because technology keeps changing; and I haven't changed with it. I'm afraid there will be lot of work to start over and that I could lose something. http://www.cableguymom.com/mysmilies/thinking.gif

I'm needing some hand holding. http://www.cableguymom.com/mysmilies/yes.gif

PS. I finally figured out I needed to subscribe to a forum before I get answers to my posts in my email.http://www.cableguymom.com/mysmilies/cute-rabbit.gif
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Well if i had to recommend a way to go,

I would start from scratch, and as for hand holding, no problem, that is what the forum is for, helping each other to better websites.

So under this begin anew premise, my first question is do you have the original HTML files? if not it is a good idea to download a copy from your website

First create a folder on your computer, wherever you want and call it whatever you want, this is the folder where you will save the copy of the old website.

Next fire up your FTP program, CC Direct FTP is good, FileZilla FTP is also good. Presumibly since you uploaded the site in the first place, you have the username and password needed to get your FTP program to log into your site. In the left panel navigate to the folder you created to save your old site in

In the right panel, you are looking for a folder public_html or www or something like that. (this is the folder where your website files are)

Select this folder, and in the server view window it displays all your website files.

select all these files, right click and on the menu that pops up select download,

now the FTP program is downloading your website files into the folder you created to hold the old website.

When your ready, we'll get you up and running with getting a new site up. Since we just copied the old site it will remain active on the internet till it is replaced with the new one.
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Ok, I have WSFTP and will do that.

Since this is a hobby, I don't get to "play" daily. There will be literally days I won't work on it. Somehow, family comes first.http://www.cableguymom.com/mysmilies/yes.gif and maybe a bit of http://getsmile.com/smiley/champions/smiley2.gif
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No problem will go at your pace. :)
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I am very interested in the above posts and find them very helpful.

Purchased HTML Editor (build 305) and used it to create a web site (www.medset.ca) which is still working. First and only attempt. No software updates so far. You know "if it ain't broke...."

However, I see a lot of code errors when I switch to the Code Editor part of HTML so there is the potential for things to go wrong.

If I follow the above procedures AND upgrade to the latest HTML Editor build first, can I still upload the "old" files/pages if there are problems with the revised pages?
i.e.
Save the current files to my computer
Make a copy
Upgrade to the current HTML build
Use HTML to modify or build new pages (I do not want to enter all of the text again
Upload the new pages to replace the old ones (I use Filezilla)
If there are problems, upload the saved files.

Hope all of this makes sense.

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