VSD: inserting special symbols into...

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For example, I have a text box on my copyright page, and in the text I want to have the special symbols for copyright and trademark displayed as part of the sentence. I can get the special HTML code for the symbols, but how do I insert them so they display properly? Just typing the codes into the text stream results in those codes just being displayed instead of them being translated.

I tried adding several blank spaces into the text, so there would be a spot I could insert a small HTML object containing the symbol code, but the text box strips it down to a single space so that doesn't work.

How do you insert such symbols? Do you have to just make the whole text paragraph a special HTML object? Is there a better way?

Many thanks in advance!
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Spinny I have joined you on this one!
I am in Italy! Anyway, I don't have much MS of anything on board but I do have the Comic Sans MS that you have used...... the good news is that your TM shows up ok.
Here is the section of code in your html which shows that there are no special characters included where you want the copyright symbol
<div class="Object295"><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign="top" align="center"><div class="text-align:center;margin-left:0px;text-indent:0px;"><span class="textstyle0">All content on these (and related) Web pages, including <br>
text and graphics, is � and/or � 2002-2009, Spinland <br>
Studios. All rights reserved.<br>
</span></div></td></tr></table></div>



So it seems odd that you and Cliff can see it correctly...... I wonder.if someone else has ideas on this one.
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Janys, could you look again? I have re-done the text as an HTML object and used the standard codes for the symbols. They should display for you now.

Thanks
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Spinny,
Can you include the link to that page in this thread? That way we don't have to search for the other posts to find out what page you are having the problem with :P
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Heh. Might be useful. On the other hand, it might be Overcome By Events, as I already re-did the page using an HTML object instead of a text box. Here's the link:

http://www.spinland.biz/copyright.html

The issue at hand is how to get the same effect using a standard text box instead of that work-around.

Thanks!
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Spinny
All ok now. I opened up the VSD to take a look with regard to the alignment you mentioned. There appears to be no xy coordinates positioner, but the guidelines do mean that you can right click and get several alignment options which work well. The obvious thing to do is make sure that all your text boxes are the same size..... that's easy enough just by doing the first one and then copying it and pasting it as many times as necessary before you add the text (buttons). And I guess you could make all the icons/logos the same size so long as that doesn't breach any regulations with the various companies/organizations in question. That would make alignment easier.

I wonder if you have tripped over one of those instances that the html box was designed for? CC obviously put it there for a purpose....... and this might be just one such occasion. Have you tried opening up your character map in your computer and copying the symbol from there directly into the button space? I just did that and it works locally, but you would need to try and do an upload. You find your character map in your system utilities.
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Janys,

Thank you again for taking the time to look this over. On the alignment, that's just what I did: made the icons and the text boxes the same size to help with aligning. For the icons, I took the original and overlaid each over a 10x10 black square so even if the icon itself wasn't the right size the final image I used was always 10x10.

The one problem I had: for the icons I set top and bottom guides and used the feature to space the icons evenly between them. Then with the text boxes I tried the same thing, but the top and bottom text boxes went past the guides. The text itself stopped at the guides but the boxes went past. That tells me the text was being used to measure position and the actual top and bottom edge of the text box was ignored. The result was the boxes were spaced farther apart than the icons, and none of them lined up with their partner. In the end it wasn't that difficult to insert several strategic guides and manually nudge the text boxes into place so they lined up properly. It just would have been nice to be able to set them as icon-textbox pairs that lined up the same way automatically.

I'm guessing the HTML object was included for a number of reasons, and this might very well be one of them. It's just a tiny bit tricky, you have to know to set up the <style> portion properly, but the HTML object even gives a space for header code so it was pretty easy to set it up how I wanted in the end. It's a useful lesson to me: never assume the viewer has the same things installed, even things that seem very common. I know that's stressed with web safe fonts, but the concept extends beyond that. I completely overlooked the form of the symbols I inserted would be specific to MS Word. I hereby resolve to do my best always to use standard HTML encoding for everything. :D
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Spinny,

As a test with VSD, create a page with the symbols again using Word as you originally had done, and also insert this code into the head of your html:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
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Okay, 'tis done. Here's the link to the test page:

http://www.spinland.biz/copytest.html

I don't know how to test it except for Janys (or anyone else who was having trouble before) giving it a go. I expect both versions are going to look okay on most (especially American) systems.
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This looks fine for me in both Firefox and IE. I was seeing the same thing as Janys yesterday in Firefox before you fixed your copyright page.

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