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I purchased CC quite some time ago. Yet every time I try to use it, I get overwhelmed by the complexity of it. I set it aside and return months later to experience the same thing.

There are so many programs, I count 30 plus I've purchased. I don't know which one to start with. I play with the HTML editor for a while, get overwhelmed by it, then think maybe something else would be better, like Visual Site Designer, or ????. And each program has it's own sub-programs in the form of drop down lists.

I don't know enough to know what to ask intellegently.

I began to read through the book "My website is better than yours". I tried to copy and paste a webpage out of the PDF book. Everything worked except the pictures. Obviously, I don't have my pictures in the right place on my computer. I renamed a few to image01.jpg, image02.jpg, etc to match the html code. I'm only on the review and practice section of chapter two, but I cannot get past this.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I don't think I am that dumb, but sometimes I wonder.

I'm not sure if I can post the webpage here. If I don't get any responses, I will post this question to the CC web support group.


Thanks,

Dennis
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The best thing to do is put all the pictures in the same folder as you saved the html file in. Then all the image tags would look like:

<img src="picture1.jpg" alt="My Picture 1" />


Then you wont have any path or root problems.
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After posting the above information, I again reviewed my webpage and the book. I tried one more time to put the pictures in the right place. This time, it worked! :) Apparently, there was a second set of "quotes" being inserted around the image when it was pasted into the editor. This was at least part of what caused the failure to launch.

I am happy right now. On to chapter 3 of the book.

Still, any suggestions on to how to best use the CC software is appreciated. I was able to get this working in the HTML editor.

Thanks for your help,

Dennis
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Thank you Tom for your help. Part of my problem was figuring out where the "folder" was. So I did a search and was able to find it.

Thanks again,

Dennis
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Welcome, Dennis. It's easy to understand your feelings, and the difficulty in phrasing questions when you don't yet fully comprehend the terminology. Most CC software is easy enough to use, but it doesn't mean that you can hit the ground running with every release. There's a learning curve to most and some can seem quite daunting and puzzling the first several times you play with them.

Some recommendations:

1) When you've been stuck on a knotty problem for awhile -- walk away and come back later, or the next day. Often you get so pent-up in frustration that you can't think clearly and keep trying the same things over and over rather than trying something different. (And, of course, you can always ask for help here on the forums...)

2) You mentioned that you're using the HTML Editor rather than VSD. I think that's a good approach and that sticking with it will be beneficial in the long run. It seems more difficult, but you'll ultimately understand HTML far better than using a WYSIWYG tool. The editor automates things to a certain degree, so you're basically adding the text in between the tags. This allows you to see the structure of the HTML, which is very helpful in becoming comfortable with it.

3) Take note of what Tom said about image file placement. If/when you create a 'real' website, rather than just fiddle around with one on your local machine, you'll find that the directory 'tree' in the HTML folder on your server must match the structure on your machine. In other words, even though you may have located your pictures somewhere on your computer -- like "Documents and Settings\All Users\My Documents\My Pictures" -- and got your experimental code to work, the images would have to be in a like-named folder on your server if it were on a real website.

As Tom pointed out, it's a good idea to copy or move your images to the same folder where your index.html file is saved in order to avoid headscratching when your browser can't find your pictures.

I take it a step further in my websites, by creating an orderly directory structure on the local machine and duplicating it on the server. This makes it very easy to troubleshoot 'file not found' issues.
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Hi Dennis,

the best thing is just to have a play with each program to get a feel for what it does and try and create something with it.

If you strike a brick wall there is a great section of tutorials and videos for each program under Get Support on the toolbar above (the purple one near the top of the page), or come to the forums and ask or put in a Support Ticket (also under Get Support).

The only silly question is the one you don't ask ...we all learn from the questions asked here, and there are many people, both staff and fellow CC users who are happy to try and help.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said...but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not exactly what I meant.


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Further to what Tom and cbrillow have said.... I always put my images into the HTML Editor project folder I am working on before inserting them in my code and that way I get the correct file path and it all gets uploaded together ...much easier
I know you believe you understand what you think I said...but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not exactly what I meant.


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tassietiger wrote:
Further to what Tom and cbrillow have said.... I always put my images into the HTML Editor project folder I am working on before inserting them in my code and that way I get the correct file path and it all gets uploaded together ...much easier


Good point. I do the same.
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I always put my images in an "images" named folder so that I don't have to wade through them all in the main directory. And I even put subfolders in there if needed to further organize. Best to keep it simple as possible though till you have a good grasp on where to find things and how to organize them. For the most part it doesn't matter where you put them as long as you know where they are and how to reference them :)
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Thanks to all of you for your kind and helpful words. :)

I really do appreciate the help.

Thanks,

Dennis

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