What do you mean by this?
PHP option to exclude outside the body

The only thing I know - which isn't much - that could be causing some of the "improper" code (though it does work, visually) is that I'm loading in the doctype and page styles from the head code of each of the VSD includes. I think most folks work around this by just not including that in their included files. I can't do that, for my system to work. I must be able to keep the VSD created files virgin, straight out of the program. Sure, I can edit content myself, but this is all part of my strategy to enable an easy editing process for some of my web clients. Now... there is of course a whole other way to go about it, which is to insert the html includes for the banner and the menu onto each VSD document and just hope that the client won't touch those html boxes. I do wish there was a function in VSD to "lock" an element in place.

Why not use an iframe for content from the client. Set them up in VSD to publish to a subdirectory in the main domain. Then you adjust the iframes to point to these html pages.

That's one of the things to try. It's the same scenario as my PHP includes, but just with iframes. So let me configure that and see if it gives me different results and then I'll get back. I think I'm going to have the same problem, because - just like in your iframe example on your website - it does seem to load the doctype and head code. But we'll see.

I thought that iframes gives one the same problem as framesets when it came to Google indexing, ei, only the frameset is indexed and not the frames content..........
So I'll report back.....

Here's the version with iframes: (again ignore the links)
http://giantgreenpods.com/vsd_tests/iframe/

Problems I ran into: the pull down menus won't work when they overlap an iframe, so I had fall back on php include for that.
Also.. there's no easy way for the lower content iframe to automatically adjust it's height to the incoming content. Lots of folks online have this problem. I put in some javascript that does take care of that.
Down to 9 errors... mostly the missing img alt tag (which I'm bad about) but there are several that still have to do with the head info of the menu loading into that php include.
I need to see if there is a workaround for iframes and drop down menus.

Here's the page with the menu in an iframe: (in a div because I was experimenting with z indexing to see if it would help)
http://giantgreenpods.com/vsd_tests/ifr … frames.htm

And one last version that uses VSD for the main index page, an iframe for the Banner, and a div for the menu (that's what it comes in) and a div for the lower content. I actually don't mind the vertical scrolling in the bottom section but I sized the width to stop horizontal scrolling. Still quite a few error showed up at validation. I think there is a big grey area there on what you can pass by that really won't cause any problems and what might glitch on a certain age of a certain browser. All my current scenario's work on my Firefox & Explorer, despite validation issues.
http://giantgreenpods.com/vsd_tests/vsd_menuincluded/

For links in iframes use target="_parent"

Alrighty... you might have seen my post under Menu Builder about the iframe links. This will be going live, once I get the staff capable of filling out the rest of the content with VSD. It works great and Coffeecup will have some new customers. I had a tough time with some visual aesthetics involving the vertical scroll, the background color/image... but I got it figured out. The lower VSD content pages can be made any height and they will auto scroll with that super clean scroll bar insert... and without any nasty horizontal scroll bar showing up!
http://giantgreenpods.com/vsd_tests/Tis … index.html
Thanks for the help. Now to work on responsive for other clients including myself.

Hey Gary well done with this website! It looks really good.

Thanks... It's not a flashy site.. but it's designed for extreme ease of updating using VSD - thus the iframe (simple VSD pages) lower content. It's for a non-profit museum in a small town that I'm on the board of because they want to exploit my computer skills for free !
Here's one of my designs: http://propstraightener.com/ It needs some maintenance - I'm getting rid of the flash video player real soon and going all HTML5. But check out the java rollover animations. That's really my forte, 3D animation - tons of it at my (embarrassingly dated) site http://www.FriendlySpider.com. Cheers.