Hi Scott

Like I said things are looking up,... but I think I just made an ass of myself with someone who I'm supposed to look somewhat intelligent to.

In VSD 5.92 I got the connection to rock I got all the changes done on my computer that I wanted ( with the exception of the fact that my "get a quote form seems to have lost its light blue background.... any ideas?)......in any event I uploaded and the angels started singing. There it was just as it needed to be ....for now...so we can start addidng like crazy on Monday.

But here's the deal,.... so I get the site where I can go show my manager who's computer we also have to put the site on so he can add delete etc from the site . So I made a CD of the .vnu file, copied the files folder to that CD and strutted in like we were done with this miracle. We just had to get VSD 5.92 and the vnu file up on "his" machine now.

Well,.... We got 5.92 installed , did the ftp fix and got that rocking, copied the files folder onto his computer( which was missing a few jpg files ?????( I tell myself that for some reason VSD didn't pull them from there original folders on my computer to put them in the site folder with the corrresponding .vnu folder name) so it was still referencing them on my computer from their original location.???

Then we had to start laboriously remapping all of the pictures from the files now on his computer in the VSD files folder( all of which were not there. So he gave up.) I guess I figured once we gave a path VSD would default to that path if there was no other meanibful path available and would then perhaps just suck up all of the files out of the VSD files folder. No such luck.

Then I said well lets try syncing the site and perhaps VSD will pull any missing files that were not in the VSD files folder, from the web site hosting files folder. I guess that's kinda what I thought "Sync"ing meant ,.... matching up on both sides and asking what to add or delete from either the computer's vnu file and data folder, and or the web's site's and files folder.

Well I was wrong. So what got uploaded onto the lunarpages server was the incomplete pages that were now on his computer because not everything had been appropriately mapped.

Well, I went home, kicked the dog, who then bit the cat,......and tried reloading the site as it should be to get it back to the way it was. Then......Houston, we have a problem............... an error occurred during upload. No go.

My question is twofold:

1 How do I get it resynced from my computer back to the way I had it two hours ago?

2.How do I get my manager's computer to pull all of the files backward from the website so we don't have to re-map 462 jpg files (some of which didn't make it into the VSD Specified folder?)

I think the issue lies with the way your coping the data to drives and then to other computers. I did find an issue today with drive letters getting duplicated under some circumstances.

The best way to make all this work is this:

1. On the original system, save all of your data to the C: drive, save upload etc.

2. Copy the contents to a cd, thumbdrive whatever and take it where you need.

3. copy that stuff back to the desktop on the new system. Open the site again in 5.9.2 and all the paths and things should be just fine.

The issue seems to be around saving and opening on drive letters that do not match up on other systems.

Now again for this all to work, go back to the original system first.

Hi Scott,

Well, When I was first developing the site, I had a whole bunch of pictures that i had to crop, matte, resize and compress for the web. As I went along I created folders for many different categories of pictures on my C drive in one folder but nested as much as four or five folders deep.

When I designed the site I referenced all of the pictures from their original locations because i didn't think I'd need to put them all in one folder because VSD was seing them and pulling them up.

I have noticed this time around that when I opened the vnu file and saved it as a new file to my desk top that the "save as" function seemed to pull most of the picture files from their original locations and in the process created another folder right next to the vnu file with all the HTML page files and a "files" folder with all of my pictures in it. In essence VSD's new vnu file also has a new folder that it then references with all the data I theoretically need in it. So I'm not say that the actual.vnu file has all the pictures in it,..... but the newly created corrrespondingly named folder DOES... at least on my computer.

But apparently, some of the referenced pictures didn't make it into the new folder and it would appear that they are still being referenced to the original mapping. So.... on my computer it works fine for the most part. But copy these files to another computer and this is where we start to run into the "double references in the "missing" file paths that are requested in the remapping dialogue box.

What I did do before I found this to be an issue was I copied the vnu file and its self created corresponding files folder to a CD and then brought it into the office thinking that this new file would contain all of the photo's that the .vnu file is looking for from that folder.

But what occurred when I installed it on the other computer was I got all of the place holders in green and then the remapping dialogue boxes started popping up asking where the file xxxx was.

So we started going through it and, as I expected most of the files were infact in the corresponding folder, but some weren't. This is where I got a bit perplexed.

So when I went back home to my computer to re-sync the site as it was, I got an error message and the sync aborted.

I have since done another "save as" creating yet a 7th version of my site to get it breathe again on lunar pages. All went well with the exception of several Door images which the vnu. file seems to have mismapped.

So I'm not sure if I should try to determine the missing files and then find them on my PC in there original folders and then copy them to the VSD "files" folder and then remap them from there and do another save as and then upload agin or , if there is a way to pull all of the files from the site into a folder on the new computer and then somehow tell vsd that all of the corresponding fileshould be sought out in that particular corresponding folder before it asks me to remap every one of them individually...???

What do ya think?

Thanks for all of your help!!!

I may be totally off base, but my observation of how VSD works is that it does NOT 'copy' any files from their original locations but saves the explicit paths in the VNU file. And only when you generate your website (ie via SAVE or UPLOAD), it then pulls a copy of the file and put them in the *.vnu_website or whatever folder path used for uploading.

So, if you move the setup to another computer, you need to duplicate the original folder structure used. What I do is to create a dedicated folder (and subfolders as necessary for organization sake) and stuff all my requires files there. If I need to move the files, I just copy the whole structure. Since VNU keeps the explicit path name, it is best that if your orginal files are on C: drive, put them on C: on the new system too. Else, there will be some remapping to do.

I thinking the same as Peter. The .vnu file is very small, so files aren't inside of it, and the folder created by VSD is an export, not something it refers to when loading the project.

Well... one of us appears to be missing something, because when I open up VSD's corresponding vnu file and then I do a "Save as" and rename it it does two things:

1) creates a newly renamed vnu file
2) creates a correspondingly named folder right beside it.

Inside that folder are all of the corresponding HTML pages and another folder called files. Within the "files" folder are all of my pictures as organised by VSD.

Try it and let me know if you can't open up those pictures in photoshop or anything else.

We can't all be right. So who's it?

That sounds about right. When you do a save as, that is the correct process. The images you can then open in any graphics editing program. If you can;t open them, are each image 0 bytes? Does it look ok in preview?

The Save/Save As function creates a vnu_filename.vnu_website folder with the HTML and associated image files, using your ORIGINAL image files. As I have complained in the past that there should be a (separate) Save function that simply saves the changes to the VNU file and not generate the HTML/image files.

The image files in this *.vnu_website folder would be located under "files" and may have different size/format than your originals. For instance, if you placed a JPEG in your page and then rotated it or belved it, the resulting JPEG looks different than your original.

Every time you do a Save, these files gets RE-CREATED using the originals ...

The only issue there is I can see people not understanding the difference between save and save as. I can just see people doing a save and not have their Website updated. That in itself would be a huge round of support questions for us

True ... I really like to see a "Save VNU Changes" setting myself