Well let's just say, that this "ignorance" isn't your typical laws and many people don't have a clue that there really are many if any laws governing internet usage. Just a thought on all this chaos.
*tells the users to be nice cuz she can't fathom having Tom get ghetto in here* LOL
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Perhaps, the 'shouty' avatar I'd been using gave that impression. It was a hangover from the egg hunt, I've switched to something more innocuous. :-)
I think the issue is not whether site visitors can copy the file, but is really whether people have the right to broadcast copyright material in the first place. They don't.
The root of problem really shows up in a key phrase of the thread title. Think about it... 'legality of using web jukebox to play your music on the web'. Nobody shuts you down for playing 'your music' on the web (unless its really really bad)
. You get shut down for 'playing somebody else's' music on the web, without permission.
When you buy a CD, the sounds contained on it are not 'your music' they are the artist's music. ie: "Content that you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships".
You have purchased the medium and some end user rights, but the copyright expressly forbid such uses as broadcast and public performance. The stream from a media player on a publicly accessible website on the internet is both of these.
BTW, I'll bet you get great FM reception with those grills, Tom!
" ... misconceptions and misinterpretations play a major role in shaping the course of history" - George Soros
Yes, but only I can hear the voices in my head. So, no copyright violated.
CoffeeCup... Yeah, they are the best!
I was getting four FM stations and channel 4 on my upper right filling until they switched over to digital. I'd wondered if a set of grills would help?
" ... misconceptions and misinterpretations play a major role in shaping the course of history" - George Soros
Yup, it's illegal without a doubt.
Have you heard of Getty Images and Corbis suing people for using their pictures on personal websites? And what they're doing is a scam - an illegal scare tactic even when they DON'T own the photo licensing.
Streaming someone else's music could also be considered "performance" which is also illegal without the license - even though the license is free you have to pay royalties. These guys demand $600 even if a photo was used years ago on a website that no longer exists because the owner is deceased. I know - they tried to collect from my (deceased) wife. But if you ask them to provide proof they have the licensing rights, they generally never contact you again.
With Getty and Corbis, they often "sell" licensing to photos they never had the rights to in the first place. Best bet for those two is to ignore them and, unless you can prove you have legal permission, remove the offending artwork.
With music, it's a lot easier to determine who really does own the rights. And the music companies (who by the way are at the same time ripping off the artists and songwriters) are in a a panic over the downturn in their business.
Did you know it's now illegal even to share a few guitar tabs with anyone else?
And, no, ignorance of the law is no excuse - not to the courts.
Whatever happened to the days of poets and minstrels, wandering the land and playing for all to hear? They felt honored if their music was repeated - but then, we're a lot more materialistic these days!
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For the most part you don't need a license to play music if you are not doing so for profit, nor do you need to pay royalty fees to do so. You can blare your music on your stereo outside to the entire world and ASCAP cannot touch you for doing so. It's all about doing so for profit and that's when they get involved. Hence you have DJ's, Karaoke providers and bands all having to pay their share to ASCAP due to the fact that they are being paid for using the material.
Profit is also considered money taken in for non-profit business functions so there are still royalties needing to be paid for those. Usually those fees are paid by the performers, but sometimes companies need to pay this also when running functions.
Not saying that it's not illegal to stream online, I'm sure there's limitations to it for sure, just arguing the point on not being able to use your music for your own enjoyment.
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