Another attempt...


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Well, now I'm really confused :P
I made my images 600 x 400, and chose custom size, entered 600 x 400. I did try making the album smaller than the images, but no luck with that either.
So, do I need to make sure my images are always over 1000px when saved for web?...But they weren't that large in the first album...
Or is there some formula for determining how large to make the photos so one can figure out which album choice will display them? For instance, do they have to be at least 200px larger than the album dimension?
So, now that you've had a chance to play with it, what do you feel is best? How can we make it better and easier to use?

Maybe include some instructions about sizing photos before uploading them so it's possible to just click on the album size we want and it will work? (...and so some of us won't have to figure out query strings and custom URLs :lol:)

But for the time being; what size photos do I need for them to show up at the 640 x 480 (Or 600 x 400 if the custom size would be possible)?
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I had the same issue paintbrush. I couldn't get my 600X400 to show but looking at jays instruction on how their being re-sized automatically I now see why they would only show up in the next size down album script. I guess I don't see the need for a custom size when your truly being held to particular sizes anyways. I think the custom url would be an easy option but I think it should be generated for the user to keep the forum from being flooded with questions.:)
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paintbrush wrote:
But for the time being; what size photos do I need for them to show up at the 640 x 480 (Or 600 x 400 if the custom size would be possible)?

The best thing to do is upload photos larger than 940px on the longest side. That way the gallery will work at any of the preset sizes.


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"Down-sizing" didn't work for me this time. That's why I'd like to know what size to start with so I don't waste a lot of time re-doing these in PS, only to have them not work again.

I tried the custom size option because I'm trying to replace an existing slideshow and have a limited amount of space to work with. If there were some instructions, maybe the size options would be listed in there, but as it is, you need to get to the "get code" step first before you see what the options are.
640 x 480 would work, but I already had my pics at 600 x 400. :/ Do they need to be +200; 840 x 680? +300; 940 x 780?.... What's the magic formula? :lol:

. I think the custom url would be an easy option but I think it should be generated for the user to keep the forum from being flooded with questions.:)

For custom sizes, "just add a query string to the album URL..." will be a bit too custom for some of us :lol:
Detailed instructions would need to be included.

Edit: Took me so long to type/post this, didn't see J. was back with some advice :D

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Eric Rohloff (Rolly) wrote:
I guess I don't see the need for a custom size when your truly being held to particular sizes anyways.

That's not entirely true. The image sizes we create a just breakpoints. Whether you want a gallery that's 800x600 or 900x540 or 600x400, or even an odd size like 438x619, they would all use the same images (the 940px versions) because that's the size larger than the gallery size used. If your gallery was smaller than 460 on the longest side, then it would use the 460px images. Make sense? This gives you the flexibility to size the gallery to your exact needs. Just be sure you uploaded photos large enough to be scaled down (not up) to fit the gallery. Does that help?

Eric Rohloff (Rolly) wrote:
I think the custom url would be an easy option but I think it should be generated for the user to keep the forum from being flooded with questions.:)

If we added "size" to the Album settings it wouldn't even need to be in the URL, it would just work. My question earlier is about what you feel should happen if your photos are smaller than the gallery size you specify?


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J. Cornelius wrote:
Hey everyone,

As previously discussed here, right now the album dimensions must be smaller than the image dimensions for an image to load. Here's how it works:


J.

Ok, I have managed to get my album displaying the images again but I can see problems ahead until you get the resizing sorted, at present it will not be easy for many users to understand.

I have given 2 links here for the same album which contains 19 images, 17 are 1024 width and the other 2 are , 1 at 800 and 1 at 665.

http://cchelp.coffeecup.com/albums/photo/

In the above only the 17 1024* images are loaded.

http://www.coffeecuphelp.com/sdrive-gallery.php

This one was set to 400x320 so that it could be placed on an external page and it displays all 19 images.

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J. Cornelius wrote:

1. Make the default size smaller. This is quite easy to do, but we feel that most of the time you want a small gallery because you're embedding it in another page, and there is already a size control in the embed function (fully customizable in fact).

2. Allow you to change the size of the "full page" album in the album settings. This is also pretty easy, but it doesn't solve the issue of photos that are smaller than the size you choose not showing up. The "full page" album already supports custom sizes, all you need to do is add a query string to the album URL. Then you can set the size of the album to whatever you like.


There is an argument for being able to set the size of the full page, and one for not, it all depends on how you are going to use the album.

I know you say that you can add custom string to the end of the url, but that is sort of defeating the issue if you are not going to put the album on an external site. When sending the url of the full page gallery to family and friends to view, It doesn't look very good having to have a small gallery in the middle of a pc screen with a res of 1600x900, and higher these days, just so that smaller, older images that you have from time gone by, can be included.

Is there no way the script can be modified so that it will accept smaller images but not to resize those down?

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Jim Cantrell wrote:
I have given 2 links here for the same album which contains 19 images, 17 are 1024 width and the other 2 are , 1 at 800 and 1 at 665.

http://cchelp.coffeecup.com/albums/photo/

In the above only the 17 1024* images are loaded.

http://www.coffeecuphelp.com/sdrive-gallery.php

This one was set to 400x320 so that it could be placed on an external page and it displays all 19 images.

This is working *exactly* as it is programmed. Not showing and stretching images that are smaller than the gallery.

Jim Cantrell wrote:
There is an argument for being able to set the size of the full page, and one for not, it all depends on how you are going to use the album.

Yep. That's why we're asking our customers how they would like to use it. So we can build something you'll truly enjoy using. ;)

Jim Cantrell wrote:
I know you say that you can add custom string to the end of the url, but that is sort of defeating the issue if you are not going to put the album on an external site.

Putting the gallery in another site is what we made the embed functionality for. That makes it super easy to put the gallery on any page, as Paintbrush did here.

Jim Cantrell wrote:
Is there no way the script can be modified so that it will accept smaller images but not to resize those down?

What exactly do you mean? You can upload any size image you want, and the resizer will only make smaller versions, not larger ones. Why would you not want to make the smaller versions?

All that said, I think we have a solution for this. I'll post an update here when we have something to show you. Thanks for your feedback everyone!


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Okay everyone, have a fresh look at your albums. I've posted an update that should solve the issue with images that are smaller than the gallery not loading. Please let me know what you think.

Next up, allowing you to customize the size of the "full page" gallery...


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That does look better now, I can see all 19 images if the full page view. I did add another album prior to this update and only added 800x images, but they did not show without adding the size query string onto the end of the url, now they do show after the update.

J. Cornelius wrote:
Why would you not want to make the smaller versions?


I do want the smaller versions to add to a site, but if I have added 19 images to an album then I want it to show all nineteen in full page view and not 17, that has been fixed now so we are go on that one.

J. Cornelius wrote:
Putting the gallery in another site is what we made the embed functionality for. That makes it super easy to put the gallery on any page, as Paintbrush did here.


I know, I have put it here http://www.coffeecuphelp.com/sdrive-gallery.php as mentioned in earlier thread, but if I have not got a website then sending this link with the size query string in to make the album smaller so that all images can be viewed doesn't look very good:-
http://cchelp.coffeecup.com/albums/photo/?size=custom&width=400&height=300

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Will a slideshow feature be added at some time in the future?
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Jim Cantrell wrote:
...but if I have not got a website then sending this link with the size query string in to make the album smaller so that all images can be viewed doesn't look very good:

Understood. When we add the size customization settings the URL will not need the query string.

Jim Cantrell wrote:
Will a slideshow feature be added at some time in the future?

Yep. That will come with the size settings. :)

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