Viewing .tif images on website


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I would like to place some .tif images on my site. These are census images which are viewed best using "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer".

I could use my CC PixConverter and convert them to .jpg or .gif files, but this greatly distorts the images and makes them impossible to read.

Does anyone know how I can place these images on my server as .tif images and make them viewable to the public using their Windows Picture and Fax Viewer?

Or, is anyone familiar with a "free" viewer I can put on my site so the public could download the viewer to view my .tif census images?

Thanks!!


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Chuck Landers wrote:
I would like to place some .tif images on my site. These are census images which are viewed best using "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer".

I could use my CC PixConverter and convert them to .jpg or .gif files, but this greatly distorts the images and makes them impossible to read.

Does anyone know how I can place these images on my server as .tif images and make them viewable to the public using their Windows Picture and Fax Viewer?

Or, is anyone familiar with a "free" viewer I can put on my site so the public could download the viewer to view my .tif census images?

Thanks!!

You should only be using gif, Jpeg or PNG files for the internet really. If you try to use otherformats, then you do run the risk of people not being able to view them. Also, you can only use images that are brower compatable. As far as I am awar, tif files are not.

Perhaps you could zip a few files and put that zip on the net for me to download, let me see if I can make them viewable in another format for you.

Mark
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I am wondering why they must be tif? As mentioned by Mike they should really be jpg or another web friendly format. Tif's are usually bigger that their comparable jpg versions due the fact they won't compress. As far as distortion of the image when converted there must be something set incorrectly when they are being converted and/or resized. Or are you refering to the possibility that when resized they have become to small to see clearly? What do you mean when you say they are census images? I have not come across this term before so I am curious. If keeping control of the image is not important to you you could zip them and make them available for download instead of trying to have them open online with a different software. Exactly how big a file are they?


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Sorry darn glasses........as mentioned by MARK!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry about that


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Tom wrote:
I am wondering why they must be tif?

When viewed with Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, jpg images distort when one zooms in to read the text on the image. Tif images don't distort in the same way for some reason and one is easily able to zoom in and read the text with ease.

Tom wrote:
What do you mean when you say they are census images?

My hobby is genealogy research. When I speak of census images, I mean images of pages from various U.S. Census Records. These Census Records are hand written onto a Census Form, and because the information is hand written, it makes it very hard to read if there is any distortion at all.

Tom wrote:
Exactly how big a file are they?

I checked a few of the images at random and the ones I checked range from 1.00MB to 2.19MB. They're large files (images), but the detail is out of this world when viewed with Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

But I've converted many of them to .jpg just to see how they do, and I'm assuming that they're compressed so small that when I zoom in to read what the handwriting says, it distorts so bad I can't make out anything but a blur.

I'm going to follow Mark's suggestion and see if I can zip a couple of the images and put them up so you guys can see what I'm talking about.

I greatly appreciate all the input ya'll have offered!
Thanks!!


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I put a couple of the .tif images in a zip file for you to see what I'm talking about.

You can find them at:

http://www.clanders.net/census.html

Thanks for your help and input.


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Chuck Landers wrote:
I put a couple of the .tif images in a zip file for you to see what I'm talking about.

You can find them at:

http://www.clanders.net/census.html

Thanks for your help and input.

Chuck, I am going to bed pretty soon, but I promise I will have a play Friday during the day and see what I can come up with.

Mark
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Chuck - OK, I didn't go to bed, but had a play with one of your images, 349a.tif It's original size was 1.19 MB

I opened it in Photoshop (though any programme like that will do). I then converted it to Greyscale, I then changged the picture size to 1000 Wide and 1388 High (just under half the size). I then saved the image as a jpeg file. The result was an image of 416 KB, about on ethird of the original size. I have to say that the image looks pretty damn good. You can not zoominto it as much as the Tiff file, but at A4 size, it is very clear indeed.

I reckon this could be reduced in size even more if you wanted. You would have to try.

Anyway, I have uploaded the image to http://www.rchavant.org.uk/b.jpg go get it and see what you think. Just Right Click the image and save as to download the image to your computer.

Mark
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I took the liberty of downloading them myself as well.If they were converted to jpg as a full size file they would still load in a web page,admitidly slowly but you could do it. They do not have to be fuzzy and distorted to be jpgs. That is probably due to the size/compression choices you made the first time around. The tiffs and jpgs made of the same file when opened size will be virtually identical. The jpg is smaller when not in use. The CC pix converter would not be my choice for a conversion of files of this nature. I have the program and have used it a couple of times for resizing a batch of files but mostly I resize in Photoshop or a program called Irfanview www.irfanview.com


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Tom Mooney wrote:
I took the liberty of downloading them myself as well.If they were converted to jpg as a full size file they would still load in a web page,admitidly slowly but you could do it. They do not have to be fuzzy and distorted to be jpgs. That is probably due to the size/compression choices you made the first time around. The tiffs and jpgs made of the same file when opened size will be virtually identical. The jpg is smaller when not in use. The CC pix converter would not be my choice for a conversion of files of this nature. I have the program and have used it a couple of times for resizing a batch of files but mostly I resize in Photoshop or a program called Irfanview www.irfanview.com

I agree Tom

I had another play this afternoon, and was able to get the original 1.2 meg file down to 245KB without any real loss of data or dsitortion.

What may be advisable is to have perhaps these images as thumbnails, then only th elarger file images when someone wishes to view it by giving it a click. This would speed up page downloads.

Mark
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