Download to Visual site designer - how

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I updated to the new version 6, on opening visual site designer it said it would convert my current web pages to the new version 6, I could keep the old ones or delete them, I deleted them.
From here on I am in trouble, the conversion was not a clean one and web pages confiqured to ver6 had image problems, mainly button pics.
The web site as it is on the web is perfect and working fine, problem is how do I download the working web site BACK INTO visual site designer.
I created a new web in site designer, coffeecup FTP'd the site back down into the new site designer web on my computer, but it does not see any of the files, even though they are there on my hard drive in the folder.
Seems there needs to be a .vnu file that runs to everything created, I just can't download a site previously created from visual site designer(old version) into visual site designer(version 6) on my computer and modify/use it. why?
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I am using the registered version of Visual Site designer, my computer is Vista
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Hi Sam,
Unless you have uploaded in the old version the vnu file, then recovery is out of the question, unfortunately you will need to redo your website sorry to say.

The new version ( 6.0 build 6 )uploads the vnu files for you with every upload so you nlonger need to worry about it, and can go back if nessesary.
Unless others have a way of doing it ( let's hope so ) then I would start redoing the website. I'm sorry. :|




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Well all I can say is I am having more trouble tha Speed Gordon trying to get this to work, I wish the hell I had never upgraded.

None of my coffecup themes are working in it, links can be changed but 'effects' and all the rest just have screens that nothing can be selected (check box) to do a change, I can't even alter the text properties.

I did a complete uninstall, just now purchased a new unused theme to trial, doesn't work. theme comes up and is usable, but this software is alowing no changes at all, right click, check a properties box, nothing works witin the properties box.

I purchased my first coffecup software January 5, 2000. I am pretty sure I have a feel for your software, I have never posted to the forum ever in 9 years untill now. I had no problems with this particular software untill I did the update, and it was the update over the current version at the time(a few weeks ago).

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i can change theme button properties, but new inserted text cannot have properties changed.

even a brand new we site from scratch will not allow changes in inserted text
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Hi Sam,

I'm also a CC client since many years, and I helped them quite a lot in the domain of image's transparency. I'm not convinced by version 6, especially version 6.06. For me, the last "good" release was version 5.8!
With 5.9, some minor visual changes (when re-generating with 5.9 a site previously done under 5.8) occurred. But it stays in acceptable limits.
The upgrade to 6.0 was more critical: on the upgraded site, I have many HTML boxes, containing i.e. tables, forms and other stuff. Suddenly, all these elements were centered onto the page instead of left aligned (as before 6.0). In this version, the buttons were still OK.
Now, with version 6.06 (the current last one), the generated code for a button with mouse over effect is BAD (or wrong, as you prefer): Since one week, I try to convince the support guys that's a BUG! But you know: the problem is not at CoffeeCup, the problem is sitting between the keyboard and the chair!
But you will see: with the time, they will have to accept the facts! And they can be happy that some guys are loosing their time to find the problems they are creating with the new releases...
Never mind: be careful with 6.06! You can try yourself:
- create a new project
- add a small button (square shape, give it a bitmap as background and a shadow). Set the link property to the current default page.
- create a mouse over object.
- set the mouse over object fill property "no shadow" and "outer bevel" for the effect properties.

When you preview this page with the built-in browser, you will see a larger button than the one you created. When you move your mouse over it, it will get back to its "normal" size!
And there is no "magic" in this: looking at the generated html will explain everything (if you're interested, I can give you the explanations).

If such basic stuff is incorrectly handled, what is "potentially" different in VSD 6.06 ? I don't know! And probably CC guys too...
Be careful, because when you upgrade from 5.9 (and below) to 6.0, the vnu is changed a such manner that NO WAY BACK is possible. By chance, version 6.06 is creating a copy of the old vnu and the vnu folder, so you still have your old project.
I spent so many hours in searching why my sites "changed" so much, that I hope these few comments will help you to loose less time than me!
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Hi Gilles, 6.06 is what I upgraded to. My previous version was the current one at the time. As you say 'no way back is possible'. The problem here is not between the chair and the keyboard, sooner or later there will have to be an upgrade that works like the old set up, new sales of 6.06 to new users will greate havoc.

Sam

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Hi Sam, I agree with you! My story with the support goes further on: they ask me to PHONE them in order to better explain the case!!! Let's laugh! It's really un-serious.

Gilles
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You know I have related problems and I don't see why VSD can not allow us to upload a .vnu file and use it at a later date.I see vsd file which is a php file uploaded but apparently I can not open it up once it is local on my drive again.

In my case I had no back up(my fault but hard drive took lightening before I exported many days of sites to back up) and just the work saved on 23 web sites which customers are now asking me to make changes. Is it really that hard to allow us a uploaded.vnu file to recreate rather then working from scratch?

In a separate issue seems the meta tags I manually add to the header are not always added and put me in a position of knowing on too many occasions and having to rewrite them in FTP and make the actual changes to the header section -meta tags. These are version 6 issues and nothing I had seen in th east.

I love VSD, but some how feel Version 6 was a downgrade more then a upgrade since I have yet seen a positive after upgrading.
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Hi Robert,
the great CC team has made it where when you upload, VSD makes a folder on your server where all the vnu files will be uploaded to -called backups. version 6 build 6.
It seems to me that for example you uploaded today at noon, that vnu is in that folder, if you uploaded again at 1:30 then that is there how do you know?
well it shows the lastest time the vnu was upload with (if any) changes.
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